When was Jones Jr considered Shot?

That's how I see it.

 

Haha this just shows how much of an influence I have over you when you start making threads to show me what others say. Haha sad man

 

when he dropped from 200lbs back to 175lbs it was over....

 

RJJ is better than anything Britannia can or will ever produce.deal:deal

 

He was shot after he defeated Ruiz. If he had retired after winning a portion of the heavyweight title , he would've been a top 10 ATG.

 

might have been when he stopped using ripped fuel?

 

over the counter products will never be the deciding factor in who becomes an atg great and who doesnt...

 

Even before the Ruiz fight you can clearly see that he had lost a step.

 

He was clearly a shadow of his former self in the first Tarver fight. I gave him the benefit of the doubt then but the second Tarver fight proved that he was shot to ****.

 

No one actually thought Roy was shot until the Johnson fight. He had lost a step before that fight, but the Johnson fight showed that he was done.

 

Any other answer is ridiculous.

 

I think the back to back knockouts took more out of Jones mentally then they did physically. It took him quite a while to mentally get over those losses, and by the time he did, time had caught up with him. With that, it's hard to pinpoint a moment when you saw him and thought he was physically "shot". But it's safe to say that after Glen Johnson KOed him, he never fully recovered.

 

At the time, I considered him shot after Tarver 2, because I attributed his poor performance in the 1st Tarver fight to the after-effects of burning off all that weight, but in hindsight now I realize he was shot in the 1st Tarver fight too because he never ever improved his standard of performance whenever he was in with a top fighter after that. From Tarver 1 onwards, Jones has either been knocked out or dominated by every single top 10 ranked fighter he has faced. For Roy Jones Jr to get blown out in 2 rounds by Tarver then knocked cold by Glen Johnson = shot to ****ing ****.

 

Nah I think time caught up to him after the Ruiz fight. I don't think he was shot in the first Tarver fight just past his prime. A better case in my opinion can be made that he was shot after Tarver or after Johnson. I am a RJJ fan but he got caught perfectly in the second Tarver fight I'll make no excuses for that loss.