When was the last catchweight b side winner

Correct :good

 

Not a catchweight per se, but a thorough draining to the point where Oscar nearly died of thirst the night before the fight.

 

yes, maybe I remember wrong. Didn't he want to go back to 47 (he fought forbes at 150 in the fight before this), I'm sure he was trying to get the mayweather rematch but knew floyd would only rematch at 47 so he wanted a fight at that weight.

 

Paul Williams vs. Sergio Martinez II
Williams side received more purse and requested the 158 pound catchweight.
Sergio KO2

Andre Berto vs. Victor Ortiz
Although the 146 pound catchweight seemed to favor Ortiz on paper, whom was making his first fight above 143-ish catchweights, Berto was the A-side who received the majority of the purse.
Ortiz UD12

 

There was no draining, Oscar was the A side and asked for those terms. Remember he wanted to fight Hatton before Pac and already had plans of going down in weight.

Draining is only at catchweight. De La Hoya wanted the weight advantage coming into this fight, but backfired on him big time.

 

You can only be drained at a catch weight? Please explain.

 

Absolutely, and hopkins was b side to pavlik...ect

 

I can't wait to hear this. :yep

 

Draining is when a fighter is dehydrated when getting ready for a catchweight. For the purpose of weakening him for the fight, usually to give advantage to the little guy. Duh!

Draining can't occur at a full weight because at that point the advantage belongs to the bigger fighter, as he is fighting in a division for the purpose of beating up on the little guy. Examples of this are Brandon Rios (at lightweight), Chavez JR (Middleweight), etc..I would mention Canelo as well. Its not a full weight at 155lb but he is clearly fighting smaller opponents when he should already be a middleweight. Bottom line is none of these fighters were mentioned as being drained, just the opposite they were criticized for having an unfair advantage.

In the case of DLH vs Pac, he never drained. He was 143lb a month before the fight. Let me repeat, DLH WAS 143lb A MONTH BEFORE THE FIGHT! As much as I liked Oscar, he was a ****ing idiot. Instead of simply losing water weight to make 147lb, like a normal fighter would, he went on an extreme diet that made him skinny as ****. And with a low carb diet, of course he had no energy.

 

So if Wlad fought Roman at the full weight limit of 112 the advantage would go to Roman? Even though Wlad would have had to cut off all 4 of his limbs to make the weight?

You can't make these sweeping statements like "Draining can't occur at the full weight" because they will never hold up. So if Kovalev came down to a 169 lb catchweight for a fight with Ward he could be drained but if he fought at the full limit of 168 he would not be drained and 'have the advantage' because he'd be the bigger fighter. :huh

 

Draining specifically refers to losing water weight. By definition 95% boxers are "drained" for every fight...since except for a few examples, virtually all boxers don't fight at their natural weight. However, I understand that is most likely not what you are talking about. By "draining" you refer to when a fighter loses so much water weight that come fight night it takes a toll on their energy.

Why i say it doesn't happen at full weight (not typically) is because of diet. Too meet a catchweight, fighters typically drain themselves more than usual. But too go down a whole division is usually 6 or more pounds. Which means fighters simply gain less muscle or goes on a bit leaner diet, and not simply rely on their ability to lose water weight.

 

But this is just semantics and perception, not reality.

Someone like Chavez Jr obviously was drained when he lost 20-25lbs (maybe more??? I could never work out how that was even possible) to make 160lb. Just because he was making a tactical decision to have the size advantage at 160lb doesn't suddenly mean it was a piece of cake (excuse the pun) for a 185lb man to sweat down to 160lb. It must have been hell for him just like it would be for anyone (yet funnily enough you only ever heard about how fat and lazy he was, never about the huge effort that must've been required to make weight).

I understand in context why someone like Chavez was criticised for draining (because he did it for a size advantage) while someone like Geale was treated with pity (because he had to do it against his will to make a catchweight). But ultimately, they both still suffered from being drained as hell, and they both still enjoyed a size advantage. Anytime a fighter drains and rehydrates major weight there is an inherent advantage and an inherent disadvantage.