When will Wilder shut up about Joshua...

at first I thought hes was just doing it for publicity.

But then he says things like "half hybrid" "good feet work" and "Affleckicism" and I realize he is a complete utter mong.

 

You're an idiot.

It's 2018 and has been for far too long to let that slide.

Talking **** and acting foolish to get big money fights goes back to 1790, has always existed since, and it is the foundation for how black americans sell their fights.

Mendoza to Richmond and Mollyneaux. Mollyneaux makes it famous, Richmond trains the next gen. Sutton keeps it famous while Johnson trains blacks in America producing talents such as Knox, Hewlett who would later teach at harvard, and Tarver the man who toured the world with Mace to teach and exhibit boxing. By the start of the century 20th Mendoza School is a lost term replaced by the Black Code producing such fine gentleman as Jack Johnson, Muhammad Ali, and Floyd Mayweather.

It's understandable you'd not be familiar with the history in detail, but to assume assing around making a big stink is anything but a marketing strategy makes me wonder what history you do know. It's a bit of a classic init?

Everytime you get pissy because Wilder doesn't pronounce athleticism properly you're buying into his ploy. I'm not saying he can say the word, I'm saying if it didn't benefit him he'd avoid the word, but since you click the videos just to hear it he gives it to you.

 

Stupid thread, does the OP want to see the fight or not? A lot of ***** in the heart of these so called boxing fans.

 

Ortiz beating Wilder would be the best thing that could happen to the heavyweight division.

Ortiz isn't willing to wait around as he hasn't got the time and i've no doubt that Hearn doesn't respect Ortiz enough to consider him a threat to Joshus as he could've easily kept him in his stable and prevent the fight from ever happening.


I personally think Ortiz is too small and too old to give Wilder too many issues.....but I'm praying for you Luis!

 

Does that negate the history of it happening, it's effectiveness, or it's intention.

You're right, no one wants to do it. It's too bad The Jew had to stoop to such levels to get paid. It's too bad Johnson felt he had to be a villain. It's a shame that Ali had to be the lip before he could be The Greatest. It's only in very contemporary history that it becomes controversial. Wilder doesn't do it because he wants to any more than Daniel wanted to be The Jew or Johnson The Unforgivable Blackness. It's juxtaposition. This is what you do when the public hates you.

 

he is self promoting and doing a good job

his management team have not reaped him the kind of rewards a 39-0 koing heavyweight normally brings .

he is doing his best to drum up a megafight for himself with the payday that brings

and wilder haters are still not giving him enough credit for taking on ortiz when he did not have to and IMO team wilder wanted absolute no part off.

wilder himself wanted to silence his doubters by taking on ortix and if he beats ortiz and joshua beats parker imo that bumps wilders payday percentage v joshua way up from what he could expect now.

i think a win over ortiz legitimizes wilders reign .

people say ortiz is old/slow/grandad/druggie/over the hill.

i see a big /strong/ southpaw /clever/controlled/experienced/technical/fighter with good pop/counterpuncher.

 

Logistically somebody credibility!

 

The thing for Wilder is when he loses that's it for him. He talks too much there's no coming back from that. Joshua has been humble he's not stated he's a machine and the GOAT when Joshua loses he can still return.

Wilders talked way too much it really is Broner in heavyweight form.

 

..Probably after he fights him.

 

It’s clear as day Hearn and Joshua are ducking

 

When will you guys shut up about Wilder is the better question. It's so boring. Nobody is forcing you to watch or listen to his interviews, drop the weird obsession already.

 

Oh ****ing challenge to that sir, you my friend are just flatly wrong.

"Its the lazy way, the easy way, the chicken way."

from 1790 to today I can link the training and sales lineage. Are you sure about the justaposition? Are you sure you're not just assuming?

Wilder is debatable because he's not history yet. People still have something to lose or gain by how they tell his story.

The tale of Mendoza School and the 230 years of history is not.


Let me say this as bluntly as possible; everyone wants to be respected, everyone wants to be cool, everyone wants to be the man. No boxer in the history of boxing self promoted through antagonism because they wanted to. Everyone wants to be able to play the role of the well respected and idolized champion. Whether you agree with them or not the only reason any fighter ever goes Mendoza School with sales is because they have accepted they can do nothing to stop the public from hating them.

Mendoza, Richmond, Mollyneaux, Sutton, Kendrick, Jem Johnson, Hewlett, Old Godfrey, Jack Johnson, Ali, and Money does not seem like a lazy list of names to me. It seems like the list of some of the hardest working men in boxing history.