When Wladimir Klitschko fought Chris Byrd in their first encounter in 2000 for the WBO title, do you

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  1. Spooky81

    Spooky81 New Member Full Member

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    do you think Waldimir wanted to take this fight or did he really wish he could keep biding his time as a contender for a shot at a more established title belt? Wlad's promoter Universum (who had the ultimate say in the matter) held rights to Chris Byrd's next fight and I'm sure they wanted the belt back in their stable. The WBO at that time wasn't yet considered a major title belt by most world boxing observers, although in Europe it probably was. I've seen in interviews where neither Klitschko brother felt any animosity towards Chris Byrd and didnt want this fight to be labeled a revenge fight although it was by promoters. But did Wladimir actually want this fight for the WBO strap back when it was still considered a minor title in most circles?
     
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  2. Soi Six

    Soi Six daddy, daddy cool, daddy, daddy cool banned Full Member

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    Let me get on the phone to him.
     
  3. Spooky81

    Spooky81 New Member Full Member

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    Almost spit my coffee reading that. Lol.
     
  4. Babality

    Babality KTFO!!!!!!! Full Member

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    Can you ask him why he was often so boring? I think we know but I want to know his thoughts.
     
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  5. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    It wasn't even seen as a noteworthy fight from memory tbh.
     
  6. Spooky81

    Spooky81 New Member Full Member

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    In his best Mr. Krabs voice: "MONEY!!!"
     
  7. BCS8

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    In my opinion Byrd was tailor made for Wlad. Much smaller, no power, no real explosiveness. Yeah he had slickness but all that gets you is being target practise for Wlad's jab all night. Byrd's footwork is average which means Wlad can dictate the distance too. Why wouldn't Wlad want the fight is more like the question.
     
  8. Slyk

    Slyk Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Both brothers wanted the Tyson fight. They knew they could KO Tyson and would become superstars in doing so. Chris Byrd was probably seen as a pesky stepping stone.
     
  9. Bigcheese

    Bigcheese Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Agreed. I'm also completely baffled when posters say Lewis ducked Byrd.
     
  10. Boxed Ears

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    Wlad gets the WBO belt, and gets the revenge win that his sibling relationship seemed to make a pattern of in their career, and against a non-puncher who had a good name. Absolutely wanted it, in my opinion. But I understand what you're saying and I don't believe it owed anything at all to personal animosity. Wlad didn't have any toward Byrd. It's possible Wlad wanted another fight more or sooner but I don't think he just flatly didn't want it, no matter what he may've stated. Revenge isn't always about animosity or dislike. Sometimes it's just a right of passage.
     
  11. kriszhao

    kriszhao Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It's because Lewis refused to face southpaws.
     
  12. Bigcheese

    Bigcheese Well-Known Member Full Member

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    You're right. Lennox was terrified of Byrd and Michael Moorer. SMH.
     
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  13. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You're correct. Wlad didn't have much interest in the WBO belt. He seemed to be targeting Lennox Lewis in 2000. Interest was building in that eventual showdown.

    Lewis had to get thru his complicated mandatory situation (with Akinwande, Ruiz, Tua, Grant, etc.) in 2000 against guys that had been waiting while he unified in 1999 with Holyfield. And Wlad was the streaking young heavyweight. He was ranked in the top 10 by the other sanctioning bodies and was on the way up.

    Wlad was hired to "fight" Lennox Lewis in the film Ocean's Eleven (where casinos where robbed during the big heavyweight fight). Everyone anticipated that would be the big matchup by the time the movie came out in 2001.

    When Vitali lost to Byrd, you're correct, Universum had promotional rights to Byrd's first title defense. They (Universum) wanted to bring the belt back under their promotional control. Vitali had shoulder surgery and wasn't going to be ready to jump right back into a rematch first time back.

    So, Wlad fought Byrd. Beating Byrd meant Wlad would lose his ranking in all the other sanctioning bodies' top 10s. It also meant he and Vitali basically swapped places.

    Wlad had been the European champion. That belt became vacant when Wlad beat Byrd. Vitali picked it up against Timo Hoffmann. (It was Vitali's first fight that went to a decision, due in part to him still recovering.) And Vitali, who hadn't been ranked by the other orgs because he'd been WBO champ, was now getting ranked by them (while Wlad's name was removed).

    Vitali eventually got the shot at Lewis that Wlad probably would've received had he not defeated Byrd.

    Personally, I doubt Wlad would've lasted much longer against Lewis than Vitali did. Wlad didn't like getting jabbed, and Lennox tore Vitali's face off with it. And Vitali had a better chin than Wlad. Don't think Wlad could've taken Lennox's bombs.
     
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  14. MaccaveliMacc

    MaccaveliMacc Boxing Addict Full Member

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    But on the other hand, Wlad had a better jab than Vitali and was waaay more powerful. Lewis was in terrible condition in that fight, I can see Wlad getting through with some right hands and Lennox not being able to take them like he did Vitali's.
     
  15. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Wlad didn't like to be jabbed back. That was true throughout his career.

    Mariusz Wach hung with him only because he was tall and jabbed back.

    If you jabbed Wlad, it disrupted everything he tried to do.

    Fury landed very little against Wlad, but the jab kept Wlad from doing almost anything most of their fight. He was like Ali in that regard. Ali had trouble with Norton because Norton jabbed when Ali jabbed. Wlad's timing got thrown off if his opponent's jab was in his face.
     
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