When would you describe the AJ "era" to have occurred?

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  1. Slyk

    Slyk Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Was it before he was stopped by Andy Ruiz Jr? After being comprehensively outboxed and outfought by Usyk, twice?

    Let me know in the comments below.
     
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  2. Mickc

    Mickc Well-Known Member Full Member

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    What era was this involving Joshua ? Joshua had more trinkets but Wilder cast a long shadow at the same time .
     
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  3. senpai

    senpai Boxing Addict Full Member

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    There was no era after Wlad.
     
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  4. Badbot

    Badbot You can just do things. Full Member

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    :lol: I love how so many use words like comprehensively, thoroughly and systematically when mentioning the Usyk-Joshua fights.
    It´s like there is some need to assert that Joshua should be ashamed of those losses and that he got schooled. And it´s simply not true. Both fights were competitive and Usyk is one of the best boxers of the 2000s. No shame in loosing to him.
    Joshua performed really well in the rematch. It was a competitive fight from the first bell to the last.

    Speaking of Usyk, I´d say the "Joshua era" lasted from Wladimir to Usyk 1/2. Seems like Joshua lost a lot of fanfare after those Usyk losses, and people were talking more about Fury, Wilder and Usyk. Before the losses, whatever heavyweight was talked about, a potential Joshua fight was brought up. He was the biggest name in the division and for a while also had 3 of the belts.
     
  5. Slyk

    Slyk Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I had Joshua winning like 3 rounds out of 24. That's not competitive. I'm sure you thought it was competitive but it sounds like YDKSAB. People chiming in about "it was a close fight with a generational talent" that s*** wasn't close at all.

    Joshua didn't perform "really well" in the rematch unless you consider losing another 10-2 decision to be some sort of moral victory. Even the "big" round 10 in fight 2 was completely overblown if you actually watch what happens in the round with sound off. Getting beat and not selling out with everything you have because you might get stopped is a cowards way out (like backing away from the ref in Ruiz I).

    So Joshua's era for you included him getting stopped by Ruiz? Please explain. How about the 50-50 fight with Wilder that didn't happen?
     
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  6. Badbot

    Badbot You can just do things. Full Member

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    :lol: You clearly have a bias against Joshua. Good for you.
    And I already explained what I thought and meant. The so called "Joshua era" was when he was the most popular guy in the division. Wilder and Fury did their thing for years and at every corner someone brought up Joshua. Every upcoming contender was linked to a potential fight with Joshua. But after the second Usyk loss, this changed. People kinda moved on from Joshua.
    And no, I don´t think Joshua was the best guy during this period. He just was the most popular guy.

    This was one of Joshuas best performances as a pro. He boxed really well that night. If you disagree, then good for you. Go dig up the RBR if you want to see many more disagree with you.
     
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  7. Turnip mk3

    Turnip mk3 Active Member Full Member

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    He hasn't had an era !
     
  8. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    The answer is easy. From winning his first belt up until losing to Ruiz.

    During that time AJ was seen as the best HW in the world and would have been a favourite over anyone.

    After Ruiz he was seen as second behind Fruy.

    After Usyk he was seen third behind Fury.

    But for 3 years he was seen as the best, that was his era.
     
  9. bremen

    bremen Boxing Addict Full Member

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    After Wlad retired, HW division has been a clown car riding around gypsy circus.
     
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    Mickea4 Active Member Full Member

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    Agreed on the first part, while the scores were wide (except the one card Joshua somehow won on) many rounds of the second fight were very very close, he boxed great and I thought he showed a pretty good IQ in there that night, I think a lot of people were surprised by how easily usyk implemented his strategy in the first fight, I wasn't, but then I was very surprised by how much AJ improved the second fight.

    I do think the AJ "era" ended with Ruiz I though, after that fight people were picking pretty much everyone to beat him, and the tentative performance in the rematch with Ruiz did him precisely zero favours on that front
     
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  12. Rilz

    Rilz Ball don't lie! Full Member

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    He was never "the man", no era.
     
  13. Badbot

    Badbot You can just do things. Full Member

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    Ooh, I think I agree with this.
    Seems like Usyk was the final nail in the coffin.
     
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  14. KO KIDD

    KO KIDD Loyal Member Full Member

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    It is crazy how he and Parker have rebounded after being written off. Both are viewed as a serious contender I mean it depends a lot on what happens next week. If Usyk beats Fury I have no interest in a third Joshua fight unless Joshua were to beat Parker or Hrgovic. If Fury wins I would be very interested in a Joshua fight still.
     
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  15. drenlou

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    After beating Wlad.