When would you describe the AJ "era" to have occurred?

So again you are bringing excuses for Ruiz, which is just silly.
Firstly from what i remember everyone was saying AJ is getting KOed, and that Ruiz has granite chin, and that AJ can't KO him, and he doesn't have gas tank or good footwork, jab, can't clinch to goes on the backfoot against Ruiz.
Before the fight Ruiz and his team were saying he is in the best shape of his life, etc, etc.

And after the fight, the excuses start raining. I don't give a s**** or won't take any credit for any boxer, based on how their opposition shows. It's their opposition problem. Just like it was AJ problem that Ruiz was a late, late replacement, and AJ didn't take him seriously the first time around, was laughing and giving his belt to Ruiz to pose with them on the weight in, etc.
As far as being gunshy this is another terrible narrative.
AJ was cautious for obvious reason, but he was never a gunshy. In the very first ring he open a cut on Ruiz with his right hand.
Also throwing 400 punches is anything but being gunshy.

But again you can always find something to nitpick literally on everyone.

And of course haters just didn't want to give AJ his props, and started from AJ going to get KO, to oh he run all night.
Something Fury is praised his whole career, and not only.

In reality in both fights, the way to lose the fight for AJ was to actually go and try to force a KO/TKO, which is exactly how he lost the first fight.
It would be the dumbest decision to try that again. And yeah that just prove my point. His haters will want exactly that, and will try to knock him for that.

Losing a fight the way AJ lost, and coming into straight rematch, winning every single round and being 100% comfortable with literally new style, should not be knock by anyone. This just show how biased some people are, nothing else.

As far as AJ KOing Ruiz. I don't think this was possible for AJ in any of the 2 fights. First fight AJ KD Ruiz with huge hook. The fat man get up like nothing happen. Then AJ find him with insanely huge right hand, and Ruiz eat it and counter him. That's how AJ lost the fight.
He find Ruiz plenty of time in the rematch with huge shots, and Ruiz was never really hurt or ready to go.
So the worst thing a fighter who is winning every round is trying to force a stoppage.

If they face now i'm certain AJ will stop him, as Ruiz is a shadow of what he used to be.

 

I think the Ruiz from the first and second AJ fights is the best version of Ruiz we have seen probably ever. He try to lost weight after AJ 2 and look a shadow of himself. He lost his durability that way.
Playing with your weight is very dangerous when you spend most of your career fat or at given weight.
Going too low it's going to impact your punch resistance big time. And this is a clear case with Ruiz. It's not the same for everyone, but Ruiz surely is.
And i think the gained weight actually help him, eating AJ hard jabs all night, and the hard power shots. As he wasn't hurt even once in the rematch.

 

Aj is a an overrated, tentative coward
Smashed to pieces by an obese bum in short notice and running like a fairy in the rematch

50 year old ortiz showed ruiz real level

The top 2 guys are fighting next week, while The former drug dealer looks for more easy prey

 

IM NOT A 12 ROUND FIGHTER
LOOK AT ME IM A PATHETIC BREED OF HEAVWEIGHT
IM 18 STONE HEAVY ITS HARD WORK

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Usyk about to face his first real 12 round heavyweight.

 

He was ranked that way, seen that way and treated that way.

From beating Martin until losing to Ruiz.

This is all a very long time ago now, it's recorded history.

 

You need professional help why are you obsessed with making Joshua hate threads all the time ? Find a new hobby.

Anyone would think Joshua stole your girlfriend the way you keep obsessing over him.

 

AJ is very disrespected given the fact that he has many top names of this era on his resume. His initial top run you’d say is from beating Whyte in the end of 2015 all the way to losing the Usyk rematch. Even then he can have a second run at the top for example Ali lost to Frazier in 71 and didn’t become champion again until 74 there’s definitely one more title challenge coming for AJ and we’ll see if he can become world champion again and hold the title for another reign

 

When he started bodybuilding , roiding, and hanging around with Ronnie Coleman! Lol

 

Something for AJ haters:

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Wow should have used that handspeed to handle Usyk. oh wait.

 

Joshua's era were the two years Fury was inactive.

 

If that's how you feel about it fair enough, and I'm not bringing excuses for Ruiz or using that in any way to take away from AJ - Ruiz inability to discipline himself is his problem and his alone. My point is that before Ruiz 1, AJ was seen as almost unstoppable, nobody gave Ruiz a chance, after the Ruiz fight I thought it was criminal how underrated AJ became, people saying he was never any good, Ruiz would smash him easily in the rematch etc, I along with many other people thought AJ would try for the KO in the rematch, most people thought that would be bad news for AJ and he would therefore get stopped again - I thought he would win the fight, but as you said in your earlier post, didn't know he could box off the backfoot like that.

Also, 400 punches, 130 power punches, that's less than 11 per round, which for AJ is pretty tentative. If he had been more aggressive, I think he could have gotten the KO, but it's understandable why he didn't go for it. I'm impressed AJ has done what he needed to do to rebound from that loss, and with the improvements he displayed from Usyk 1 - 2 .

 

I get your point and fully respected it.
But losing to a guy like Ruiz, was shocking as you say, and will be shocking to anyone. And this will shake you badly. Pretty much most people will lose the instant rematch. Hell most people won't even rematch straight away.
Look at Wilder and Zhang for example. Both has options for Parker rematch, and neither took it. Wilder was offered Parker rematch, ah no thank you. And neither lost via KO if we are to be fair.
And AJ had plenty of options, and a rebuild story to tell as well.

And even if he somehow managed to KO Ruiz that night, he still won't get the credit he deserved it.
He beats a very good version of Povetkin, who was top 5 at that time. Zero credits, like that fight didn't happen, like Wilder never ever wanted to have anything to do with Povetkin. Fury never ever even mention Povetkin name.
Pulev was still a legit top 10 when AJ beats him, with just a single loss to Klitschko, no credit.
Same when he beats Parker, and unbeaten Whyte. Same for Klitschko actually.

It's funny you know, as you somehow say that a KO win will somehow gives him more "points", yet he finish a guy that wasn't stopped for god knows how long, and still didn't get credit, you know, as Fury "beat" Klitschko better, aka via insane stinker.
Yet you hear people on here explaining how Fury schooled Klitschko, masterful performance, etc, etc.

This is my point. For AJ it doesn't matter. He will never get credit, whatever he does.