When's the last time you were in a boxing gym (if ever)?

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by mrkoolkevin, Sep 3, 2019.


  1. roughdiamond

    roughdiamond Ridin' the rails... Full Member

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    My dad teaches specific things for a persons specific body shape and disposition. Usually though, this will come quite a time after being forced to work on basic fundamental skills over and over again. I think this is inspired by the fact my dad's on coaches back in the day had lots of experience (106 bouts!) but they were pretty... Neglectful? As a result, he had to learn alot of stuff the hard way. He didn't want that for his boxers. He has been asked several times to train boxers as a pro coach, but he always turned it down for his own reasons.

    For example, my dad can teach how to shift and in fight (as he was an in fighter) but only after a guy is experienced. He also wouldn't favour it for a tall, lanky guy. Why I respect my dad's coaching is that he can teach a different style and build a boxer up despite how he boxed himself. I think this is all down to his large amounts of experience(good and bad) in the boxing world.

    My dad doesn't favour any one era of boxing. If he saw the classical / modern thing on here, he'd probably laugh. In fact, he much prefers to watch amateur boxing these days. His favourite fighters are Duran, Frazier and Minter, though he is a fan of basically anyone, especially skilled aggressive boxers like Moore. Told me to study Duran, Holyfield and Harada. He's also a big fan of Lomachenko and Inoue at the moment, alongside smaller name upcoming pro boxers like Akeem Brown and Joey Hughes who we have met (and he knows). He's the one who told me to study boxers, and that's how I found this forum. I'm grateful to have him as a dad and coach.
     
  2. ETM

    ETM I thought I did enough to win. Full Member

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    Buster Douglas stresses conditioning?
     
  3. roughdiamond

    roughdiamond Ridin' the rails... Full Member

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    Experience is a good teacher.
     
  4. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    Absolutely Not. You should come in with rolls and 3 chins. Then maybe you could channel a modern Heavyweights power like Ruiz
     
  5. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    I'm like 70kg
     
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  6. roughdiamond

    roughdiamond Ridin' the rails... Full Member

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    Growing lad.
     
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  7. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    Eating more like. I can get down 10 stone 7, so 147.
     
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  8. roughdiamond

    roughdiamond Ridin' the rails... Full Member

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    Food is a boxers greatest opponent.
     
  9. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    Willie Meehan could tell you all about it.

    I have a Mild Cherry Pepsi addition so Bernard Hopkins would not be happy with me
     
  10. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    I've noticed that. Some people seem to think that if you can find a few isolated examples of an older fighter doing something right, it means that he had the same skills as modern fighters who do that thing right consistently. Seems to go hand-in-hand with boxing highlight culture, I guess.

    Do you ever recommend that your fighters watch any particular fights or fighters? What about the other trainers in your gym?
     
  11. Pat M

    Pat M Well-Known Member Full Member

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    To me, a fighter has to learn the fundamentals first, after that he can fight any "style" that he wants. Good fundamentals and good body mechanics go together. I like the fundamentals and technique of FMJ, Andre Ward, Evander Holyfield, Gil Turner, George Benton, and many more. If somebody asks me who is good to watch, those are some that I'll name. Of the ones that I'd recommend, they have various "styles" but their fundamentals and good body mechanics are shared.

    I was watching the Ruiz - Joshua fight with some of our fighters and Callum Smith fought on that card. None of us knew who he was before the fight, but with his fundamentals and technique, he quickly got everybody's attention. I've only seen him fight once, but he's another that I'd recommend to young fighters. Other fighters that come to mind, Lomachenko, Usyk, and one that I just saw a few days ago, Lloyd Marshall. And, the training videos of Andy Ruiz inspire our younger fighters. The guy gets incredible power and speed while maintaining near perfect form. The ones I named are just some that came to mind, there are many more who are probably just as good to watch.
     
  12. ETM

    ETM I thought I did enough to win. Full Member

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    I don't want to misinterpret what you are saying. When you say 'oldtime' fighters that covers alot of territory.
    When you look at films of the great fighters from the 30s and 40s even 50s, you think the fighters of today are ''much better"?
     
  13. The Undefeated Lachbuster

    The Undefeated Lachbuster On the Italian agenda Full Member

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    Right I forgot about the superpowers that modern fatâ„¢ gives you
     
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  14. Glass City Cobra

    Glass City Cobra H2H Burger King

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    Yeah that was the first thing he had me do was run. He made everyone do at least 30 minutes on the treadmill when they got there.
     
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  15. ETM

    ETM I thought I did enough to win. Full Member

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    I know his dad was the Polar opposite of Buster. Dynamite Douglas was a junkyard dog. You had to drag him out of the gym. You had to drag Buster out of Dunkin Donuts