Where are the PED's for Pacquiao here?

He's got it. That's it, people can talk about PEDS all they want. If you look at any of this dude's fights, it's obvious, he is a puncher. Simple.

Now, it's worse because he don't just walk in the front door either.

 

:zzz

 

THis was the 11th rd and Pac was very fresh.

I have to be honest here, if he is taking PEDS, it has hurt him. His stamina has gone downhill.

 

The PED's talk is bollocks, it came from the Mayweathers......only when Pac knocked Hatton out and continued to dominate the guys Floyd avoided did they carry on further. **** em.

 

Hopefully Pac fans will finally let this sink into their head. Reasons why Pac is suspicious:

1. It isn't necessarily the amount of weight he's gained. It's the fact that he's brutalized top flight competition as he moved up in weight class. DLH, Hatton, Margarito (all bigger guys) never faced a more nasty beating prior to their fight with Pac. I'm not saying it's not possible for Pac to achieve his success through nothing but clean, hard work. But given the circumstances and considering the amount of famous athletes who have been busted, I can safely say Pac is suspicious. Mosley seems like a guy you can leave your keys with. That didn't stop him from juicing.

2. Pac does not want to go through OSDT without a cutoff date. Yes, he agreed to 14 days. But he still wants a cutoff date according to what I last heard. If you're clean and confident, you shouldn't ask for a reduced test. As a pro boxer you're one of the mentally toughest guys in the world. OSDT should be a cakewalk for you.

 

atschWhat is it with *******s now?

 

he beat those guys with speed, work rate. oscar, margarito, cotto were no match for him. hatton never had a good chin, ask mayweather. mosley will be no different. speed kills

 

Well said:good
Too bad people are too ignorant to listen to this argument:bart

 

:blood

 

1. Then why hasn't proven PEDs cheats duplicated Pac's feat? Where is Mosley's 8 weight titles? Why couldn't PEDs get Fernando Vargas past De La Hoya? Why aren't James Toney and Franz Botha future HOF candidates?

2. Did you ever think about how intrusive OSDT is? What other pro boxer besides Floyd and Shane have gone through OSDT? 7 days is a reasonable cutoff date. If Pac decided to juice in those 7 days, the post fight blood test would catch HGH use. The everyday urine testing would catch EPO use, because blood testing cannot detect EPO use, only gives you a clue because of raised blood cell count.

 

As an effective deterrent...having no cutoff makes the most sense, IMO. We don't, necessarily, know everything athletes are using out there, what the windows of effectiveness are, etc. Even the so-called experts remain two steps behind.

 

You're a certified idiot! Suspicions do not make one guilty.
I suspect you're a homo, therefore you're one.
You refused to take the the sex test, therefore you're
one.

 

Not so fast idiot, the fact that you're acting as though it is a FACT that Manny is 100% clean, is even MORE disturbing than someone having their doubts. Suspicion may not make one guilty, but many cases have been cracked based on "SUSPICION." Where there is smoke, there is usually fire. Speaking of, I suspect your a Manny groupie.

"oh um, I am apraid ob needles" "Oh um... PEDS testing makes me weak.." Yeah uh huh...


Bottom line: It is a bit suspect. Now go watch your Manny highlight reel with your pants around your knees....:hi:

 

then what can you say about USADA stopped testing 18 days before the fight for PBF-Mosley? If I were them, if they are really out there to clean up the sport as what their messiah used to preach. I would test them until the day of the fight & show to the public that it's effective and safe.

We cannot tell which testing protocol is really effective, we have so many ways to test the fighters, It's the commissions job to update them if there's really a need. Until there's a solid proof that 100%, OSDT will caught all drugs out there, it will still remain as another testing means, just like the NSAc's and other boxing commissions, and it's up to them if they will adopt it.