Where Bernard Hopkins ranks Floyd Mayweather alltime.

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  1. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Bernard has Ali ranked higher than TBE…

    But…Floyd said he’s “Better than Muhammad Ali”….
     
  2. attaboi

    attaboi Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Well BHop disagrees because he doesn't have himself in the top 10 but does have Floyd in his top 3.
     
  3. alexthegreatmc

    alexthegreatmc Sound logic and reason. You're welcome! Full Member

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    From guys like you, they're right :lol:
     
  4. alexthegreatmc

    alexthegreatmc Sound logic and reason. You're welcome! Full Member

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    Funny how the haters are disputing this and making excuses.
     
  5. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    That cowardly woman beating POS's name does not belong in the same sentence as The Greatest Muhammad Ali
    Put it in perspective ......
    Mayweather has the incredible God Given boxing talent of an ATG BUT talent alone is not enough. An ATG also needs the heart of a lion, cojones of steel & an iron will that refuses to be beaten. This is where Mayweather falls very short. He was cursed with The heart of the cowardly lion from Wizard of Oz, the cojones of a gnat, plus he has no confidence in himself.
    He will only compete in Vegas where he knows it would take a minor miracle for him to lose plus he must have EVERY advantage possible . No way under these circumstances can he SERIOUSLY be considered an ATG.
    Talent wise Yes but over all ability? No was Jose

    Just my personal opinion for what its worth If you don't like it ignore it I'll not be offended lol
     
  6. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    How old is that tape??? That was when Nard was hoping for a fight with Mayweather he wasn't being serious. Nard is a great practical joker when you get to know him:lol:
     
  7. attaboi

    attaboi Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    You're just butthurt.

    You're an armchair warrior, these guys are not.

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  8. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    George Foreman said he was terrified of Lennox Lewis & his big right hand No amount of money would lure George into the ring with Lennox. Do you think he was serious in that?? If the $$$$$$$$$$ was right George would have fought Godzilla back then LOL
     
  9. attaboi

    attaboi Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    :blabla
     
  10. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    I'm an armchair warrior these days I agree but I have fought Am & Pro in my time maybe nowhere near their level though Overall I have been in & around boxing over 30 yrs so I do know a little bit.
    I am in no way butthurt, as you put it LOL, but neither am I taken in by a con man impersonating a fighter. To put it bluntly Floyd CANNOT FIGHT!!! or at least he refuses to

    Today in Vegas he knows it would take a minor miracle for him not to get the decision. In fact he legitimately lost two fights in my estimation.
    If you believe in him by all mean go ahead buy his PPV's all you want but Personally I wouldn't cross the street to watch him for free

    Have a nice day :hi:
     
  11. itsa

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    Floyd is such a great fighter. It's awesome to live in this era. Greatest performer of all time
     
  12. Vanboxingfan

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    How would the great Roberto Duran fare against the skillful wizardry of Floyd Mayweather at 135 pounds? We posed this fantasy match to eight qualified insiders:

    Jose Torres (Recently deceased Hall of Fame Light Heavyweight champ): “It’s very hard to make a comparison because I thought that Duran was the best fighter of his time. But I think Mayweather is a helluva fighter. He’s as good as the best of Duran in Duran’s time. So it’s very hard to choose. I would have to study the styles in order for me to have an accurate opinion on who would beat whom. It’s impossible now to imagine a winner. I would have to check like five or six fights from each and the styles. You see? Because they have different styles. But Duran was a very, very smart fighter. And that’s what I like for him.”

    Iran Barkley (Former Middleweight, Super Middleweight and Light Heavyweight champ): “Duran would have got to Mayweather. Because Duran is crafty. He knew how to get to lightweight guys. Not to take anything away from Floyd Mayweather, he’s a phenomenal fighter. But at that caliber of time Duran had speed and power. Floyd got the speed and some power but not as much power as Duran. (How was Duran’s power at 168?) Duran didn’t have power at 168 like he had at lightweight. He had power that I felt. I felt the hits. But they weren’t real *******s. You know what I’m sayin’? At lightweight he was unbelievable the power that he had. He was faster and speedier. He had power and speed. And he would’ve gave Mayweather a tough fight. (Beat Floyd?) I think Duran would…I know Duran would have won the fight. I know that. Mayweather – not to take anything away from him but Duran would have won.”

    Carlos Ortiz (Hall of Fame Lightweight champ): “Tough fight. Mayweather is a good boxer. Duran is a rough, aggressive fighter. It would be tough. I would give the advantage a little bit to Mayweather because Mayweather is a better boxer than Duran. And Duran is a comer, he’s an aggressive fighter. He throws a lot of punches. He’s a strong puncher. But it all depends. If Mayweather gets hit, he gets knocked out. If he doesn’t get hit, he wins by decision.”

    Don Elbaum (Veteran promoter): “I think Duran is one of the one, two, three greatest lightweights of all time. And Mayweather’s close. But Duran could do whatever – he’d break you in half, he was vicious, he was a killer, could box, could knock you dead. I mean, he could do everything. Duran – up to this point – is a bit better than Mayweather.”

    Teddy Atlas (Trainer, author, TV commentator): “It’d be a heckuva fight. I think…Duran. Duran had close to 100 fights. Right now, because of what Duran accomplished – the largeness of that kind of body of work – I’ll go with Duran. If Mayweather decides to fight again, there’s still more we’re gonna find out about Mayweather. He’s terrific and there’s still some more things we may find out. But I know more right now in my life about Duran. And with that kind of knowledge, I’ll take Duran.”

    Eddie Mustafa Muhammad (Former Light Heavyweight champ and world class trainer): “I would think that would be a helluva fight. You’ve got to realize that Duran was also a great boxer at lightweight. That one I couldn’t call. It’s just too hard. That would be the hardest fight for me to call. To me, Mayweather is the greatest boxer Duran would’ve ever fought, aside from maybe Sugar Ray Leonard. Duran would try to maul him inside to the body. Duran was also a great boxer too. That fight would be a little too hard to call.”

    Angelo Dundee (Hall of Fame trainer of Muhammad Ali and Sugar Ray Leonard, among many others): “Oh gosh, Duran’s a living legend. And one of the best fighters today is Floyd Mayweather. That would be some fight. I tell you – it would be Floyd Mayweather’s toughest encounter. Duran against a guy with quick hands like Mayweather – he could nullify that. Duran offset quick hands through feints, head feints, foot feints and foot movements. He was a complete fighter. He had all that stuff going for him. Then he nails you. Then he bulls you too. Mayweather would be facing something he never faced before. You’re saying the fight would be at lightweight? I like Duran. Duran was slick, smart, body puncher, made you fall short with punches. At lightweight I would like Duran. He could get under your skin too. He could con you. He had ways to bother you. He was like Muhammad Ali in that way, but he couldn’t speak English. Duran was a real psyche artist.

    “It’s tough. Mayweather always rises to the occasion. He impresses the hell out of me. I knew Duran from the inception – he trained at the Fifth Street Gym (Miami). I watched him all the time. A guy I trained, Duran was working with him – Vinnie Curto. A lightweight hurting a middleweight. There was no smarter, cuter fighter than Vinnie Curto. The only thing that bothered Duran was a long, left jab. And Mayweather doesn’t have that. Certain guys give certain guys problems. We haven’t seen what gives Mayweather problems. Are we talking 15 rounds? I like Duran. I like Duran. You’re talking about Mayweather going 15 rounds. Duran was pressure, pressure. He was strong. He could punch. God, he was a great lightweight. He takes advantage of every little thing. And he did it smooth, with grace. Everything was slick and smart. I like Duran.”
    Harold Lederman (World-renowned boxing judge): “Duran in his prime vs. Mayweather in his prime…without question, I think it would be no contest. I did see Roberto Duran in his prime. I was in Madison Square Garden the first time he came in he fought Benny Huertas in that incredible one round fight. When he knocked out Benny Huertas. But they went toe-to-toe for the better part of one round. And at the that time Duran made such a big hit that they brought him back after. And I was the judge in that first fight that Roberto Duran ever lost to Esteban DeJesus in Madison Square Garden, where Duran walked into a left hook in the second round and he was sitting on the canvas looking up at DeJesus. And DeJesus just cruised to a ten-round decision. They fought two times after that for the Lightweight championship and Duran won both of them.

    “But interestingly enough, Roberto Duran was an aggressive, very, very quick, very, very well trained, very well conditioned fighter. And when you look at Floyd Mayweather’s career, he did have trouble with a big Jose Luis Castillo at lightweight. And I think that, without question, I just don’t think that Mayweather, as good as he is, and he’s a very, very talented fighter, can hold off Duran. I mean, Duran was extremely aggressive. Hit very, very hard. Just an awful guy to beat. I mean, you had to be very, very strong and have a heckuva punch to hold him off. And Mayweather, although he has a good jab, has hand problems. I don’t think he can hit Duran hard enough, jab him hard enough without breaking his hands. And boy, when Mayweather hurts his hands you just know it. Because he starts going straight backwards, like he did with Famoso Hernandez and Victoriano Sosa.

    “But with Duran, you had to have a heckuva punch or a heckuva great left jab to keep him off of you. Duran would have hammered him to the body. Eventually probably stopped him in eight or nine rounds.”
     
  13. strongarm

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    I too, used to not rank money that high. The pacquaio fight proved me wrong. One of the best ever, with out a doubt
     
  14. Enigmadanks

    Enigmadanks Boxing Addict Full Member

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    That's high praise from a man who knows his boxing.

    I personally don't have him anywhere near the top 10. I wonder if Hopkins knows who Sam langford, Willie Pep, Benny leonard and Harry Greb are. Not even mentioning Duran or the great SRL.
     
  15. The Shockmaster

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    thats a load of horse dung...anyone who has been in, and or around the game, for 30 years would have respect and appreciation for floyd.....