Where Bernard Hopkins ranks Floyd Mayweather alltime.

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  1. Enigmadanks

    Enigmadanks Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I love Duran, but I've seen the guy get outboxed by slicksters.

    All I'm saying is if Wilfred Benitez can beat Roberto, than FLoyd mayweather can beat him as well.

    Mayweather has the type of style that can absolutely frustrate Duran. He won't stay in the pocket and exchange with him, he'll be more than happy to just fight off of his backfoot, never let Duran get set up, and continually pot shot him from a distance.

    Now if Duran can stay in his chest all night and not get frustrated from the defense or movement of FLoyd, than he could beat him.

    But honestly, it's a 50-50 fight IMO. People always mention JLC I as if Floyd didn't injure himself 2 days before the fight as the blueprint to beat him. He fought Castillo right after he had surgery on his rotator cuff and beat him quite clearly in the second go around.

    I'm just saying using the JLC fight as the template on how guys will beat FLoyd is a bit of a reach. He had several other fights at LW where he fought like he usually does. One singular fight where he was injured and people just want to assume every pressure style fighter will have success against him. It's far-fetched.
     
  2. attaboi

    attaboi Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    How long was those interviews? I pretty sure Dundee's perception and appreciation of Floyd as fighter would have changed if he was alive today. It has for many of Mayweather's critics who questioned his legitimacy among the best earlier in his career. Ask any expert today and the will tell you that Mayweather definitely is among the best of all time.
    You don't have to like the man but you have to respect what the record shows. 18 years at championship level and 26-0 in world title fight. Countless victory against top 10 pfp level fighters. Mayweather is one of the best.
     
  3. attaboi

    attaboi Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    SRL also used a style Mayweather have perfected to beat Duran twice.
     
  4. Vanboxingfan

    Vanboxingfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Where does anything in these comments say that Floyd isn't a great fighter or one of the best of all time? Show me.


    I'm just pointing out some people's opinion as to where he ranks relative to say Duran, and since Duran's a ATG p4p top 10 fighter by anyone's account this, if anything bolters Mayweather's standing.
     
  5. Vanboxingfan

    Vanboxingfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    SRL fought differently than Mayweather and had a lot more power in his punches.

    I would think Dundee would be the best one to weigh in on this topic, don't you?

    Or now are you telling me you know more about how SRL and Duran fight than Dundee does?

    Cause that appears to be your counter argument.
     
  6. Vanboxingfan

    Vanboxingfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    We all know Floyd has hand problems that's pretty well documented and if can't keep Duran off of him, which is highly unlikely, it would make for a long, long night. I've never seen anyone beat Duran in the manner you've mentioned, not one fighter has ever boxed off the back foot and pot-shoted their way to victory against him, especially at 135.
     
  7. Vanboxingfan

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    What exactly would change?

    He outlined in specific detail the attributes of both fighters and unless Mayweather has improved over the last several years, which no one I know believes, than why would he change his opinion?

    Oh I know, because it doesn't agree with yours, and that alone would be reason enough. :lol:
     
  8. attaboi

    attaboi Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    What does Floyd hand problems have to do with this. You act as though Mayweather have never fought punchers. What good is Duran's punching power if he can't connect against a moving object just like he did against SRL and Benitez.

    SRL was able to keep Duran off of him and so would Mayweather.

    Check hooks and lead right all day. Duran could not beat Mayweather in his prime.
     
  9. Vanboxingfan

    Vanboxingfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    And having watched both I can say SRL would beat Floyd, of that I'm pretty sure.
     
  10. attaboi

    attaboi Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Much butthurt I sense in you.
    :oops:
     
  11. Vanboxingfan

    Vanboxingfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Well according to Lederman it could have a lot to do with it which makes sense if you think about it, but why bother thinking that just complicates things.

    Anyway, you're now coming off as a complete dumb ass who's made up your mind, long before you even started the thread.

    But go ahead, worship away, cause I'm done.
     
  12. JAB5239

    JAB5239 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Hopkins was a great fighter, but I don't put to much stock in his historical knowledge of the sport.
     
  13. attaboi

    attaboi Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Its possible SRL beats Mayweather, but Duran will get check hooked and lead right to a unanimous decision loss against Mayweather.
     
  14. Vanboxingfan

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    JC are you stupid. Have you actually watched any of the other guys fight? Let's see I have a choice between agreeing with your dumb ass, or Dundee, hard choice.
     
  15. attaboi

    attaboi Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    What's that again you said "Oh I know, because it doesn't agree with yours, and that alone would be reason enough"

    Again much butthurt I sense in you.