Where could Loma be P4P, if he beats Shakur and Tank ?

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  1. hoopsman

    hoopsman Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The Haney fight was certainly controversial in the sense that a majority of boxing fans believed the wrong guy won.
     
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  2. Dorrian_Grey

    Dorrian_Grey It came to me in a dream Full Member

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    Canelo’s fights aren’t real because pretty much all of them for the last half decade have been blatant and obvious fixes. The Kovalev fight is the clearest example because you can see Sergey pull his punches all night long and forgets how to box.
    Being a weight bully isn’t about making weight it’s about how much weight you put on afterwards. Canelo put on massive amounts of weight back down at 147, 154, and 160 after his weigh-ins. Canelo has fought more than half his career at catchweights as well and has played weight games with loads of the guys he’s fought.
    GGG beat him twice and him beating a 40 year Gennadiy who was balding and wasn’t coming to win means very little to me. The point is that Canelo has been gifted controversial decisions nearly his whole career by paid off judges and a commission that always looks out for him when he screws up.
    How is Crawford’s resume in any way better than Loma’s? I just don’t see it. Bud’s resume is abysmal and apart from overhyped, one-dimensional, compromised Errol and a half-retired Porter he holds no wins over truly top level fighters. On paper, Kambosos is as accomplished as Errol is (unified champion in a single division) and Kambo isn’t a top 10 Loma win but Errol is a top 1 Bud win.
    Not a single one of Loma’s losses came down to a lack of skill. Loma had a right shoulder injury in the Teo fight and has provided evidence on multiple occasions to support the fact that this is a recurring injury he suffers from. It’s the reason he gave away the early rounds, so that his shoulder could warm up and he wouldn’t do permanent damage to it. He knew to use this strategy because his shoulder was also injured against Linares and he did this to get around it. Despite this though, he still, imo in anyways, did enough to beat Teo. Oh, and he won the 12th against Haney. I don’t care what he said in the post-fight interview, interviews aren’t scoring criteria, Loma still out landed and backed up Haney in the 12th while barely getting touched at all himself.
     
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  3. alakran

    alakran Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Only thing on here I can agree with is Crawford. All fighters start out with size advantages when young because they can cut weight better. There’s lots of fighters who start out at 135 and move up to 160 or 147 and move up to 160-168. Canelo has now gone as high as light heavyweight and gone up and down weight classes. He has had some close wins but far from robberies. Even if you give him the last round against Haney he let his foot of the gas. I personally had him winning but you can’t keep complaining and taking it easy in fights. If he has the huge skill set fans claim he has then why not dominate fights like Mayweather, Usyk, Pac, or other atgs who were the smaller fighter in a the majority of their fights? Loma is really good but 20 years from now he won’t be remembered like Pac and Floyd or even like ODLH, Mosley or Rjj
     
  4. Reppin501

    Reppin501 The People's Champ Full Member

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    Spit hairs…dude has lost to Haney, Teo, and Salido. I mean come on man, let’s be serious.
     
  5. Smoochie

    Smoochie Combat sports fanatic Full Member

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  6. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace

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    Top 5 is good tbf
     
  7. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    It's fair to say Loma lost to Lopez fair and square which he did.

    But the Haney loss was very controversial in which the majority think Loma won.

    And the Salido loss was a total farce the referee allowed Salido to low blow Loma all night without a single point deduction, not to mention Salido not even making the weight coming into the fight weighing in at 147 on fight night which was scheduled at Featherweight......
     
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  8. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Have you ever watched Salido vs Loma ? That fight was a total farce. So you think a fighter being able to commit fouls all night without any deductions or warnings is a legit loss ? Not to mention Salido failing to make the weight and coming in ridiculously overweight weighing in at 147 in a fight scheduled at Featherweight ? That is not a legit loss in my book that's corruption.
     
  9. JacK Rauber

    JacK Rauber Unbourboned by what has been Full Member

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    Loma is probably the best fighter I have ever seen. He gives up size and strength all the time but is so much better trained and savvy than they are. What a fighter.
     
  10. JacK Rauber

    JacK Rauber Unbourboned by what has been Full Member

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    You ought to watch Loma fight sometime. You'd love him. It's weird you haven't watched him.
     
  11. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    The best you have ever seen ? Oh dear lord, imagine how overrated Lomachenkos gonna be in 20 years
     
  12. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    But your original statement was "none of his losses are controversial" which is false.

    The Haney fight is very controversial with the vast majority thinking Loma deserved the nod.

    And the Salido fight as I said was a total farce with Salido not making the weight, and a biased referee allowing Salido to low blow all night long without any repercussions.

    But yet you think corruption is an excuse apparently ? So obviously you're fine with corruption in the sport and think its legitimate. Or maybe it's just you having that narrative for this particular topic because you dislike Loma.
     
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  13. JacK Rauber

    JacK Rauber Unbourboned by what has been Full Member

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    This coming from a guy who has Plant as his avatar? Enough said.
     
  14. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    What does my avatar have to do with anything ? I don't suck plant off I know his limitations it's time you learn Lomas

    The best fighter you've ever seen :lol: man stop trolling. I will never understand that tiny portion of Loma fans who think he's Duran and Tyson rolled up in 1.
     
  15. Salty Dog

    Salty Dog globalize the Buc-ees revolution Full Member

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    But he beat Haney. Clowned him even.
     
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