Where did the Shoulder Roll came from, really ?

I´m saying that out of those people all over the world most of them were americans.

This is like saying chinese food is not chinese because people make it elsewhere.

 

Soy sauce is found everywhere..... I am sure I can go to food history and find that people used soy sauce and sesame oil in Sweden by the vikings or whatever...

Italian restaurants should not be called that ,according to you, because pasta could be found elsewhere and can be found all over, "pasta is a food thing, not a italian thing" you would say.


Features, cultural features.... it´s what I´m saying....italians perfected pasta better and should be considered the real inventors .

 

I´m sure the first guys that boxed used somewhat of a shoulder defense here and there for a couple of seconds in this or that fight...

I don´t think that makes them the "shoulder roll founding fathers", I mean... Constitutionalism can be traced in the UK or even in Africa (in the place where is Mali today) but a lot of Law books will tell you that it really starts in America because it´s where it became a organized concept as we know it today, "modernly".
Hence why I used in the thread title "really", meaning, really in a official way of defense in a main way, not some snipset in old manuals and no one really fighting like James Toney or Floyd.

How often Joe Gans used the shoulder as his main defensive mecanism ? I have the Coyleen Aycock book somwhere here, I may be reading again, Gans is one of my favorites.