Where do Mayweather and Pacquaio rank....

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  1. Vanboxingfan

    Vanboxingfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    This is the classic sections opinion of where boxers rank as of last year.


    01 - Sam Langford
    02 - Harry Greb
    03 - Sugar Ray Robinson
    04 - Henry Armstrong
    05 - Ezzard Charles
    06 - Bob Fitzsimmons
    07 - Muhammad Ali
    08 - Joe Gans
    09 - Joe Louis
    10 - Roberto Duran.
    11 - Benny Leonard
    12 - Mickey Walker
    13 - Willie Pep
    14 - Barney Ross
    15 - Archie Moore
    16 - Ray Leonard
    17 - George Dixon
    18 - Terry McGovern
    19 - Packey McFarland
    20 - Pernell Whitaker
    21 - Tony Canzoneri
    22 - Jimmy McLarnin
    23 - Sandy Saddler
    24 - Stanley Ketchel
    25 - Charley Burley
    26 - Holman Williams
    27 - Billy Conn
    28 - Gene Tunney
    29 - Roy Jones
    30 - Joe Walcott
    31 - Carlos Monzon
    32 - Jimmy Wilde
    33 - Eder Jofre
    34 - Marvin Hagler
    35 - Julio Cesar Chavez
    36 - Tommy Gibbons
    37 - Kid Gavilan
    38 - Jack Britton
    39 - Emile Griffith
    40 - Jose Napoles
    41 - Alexis Arguello
    42 - Michael Spinks
    43 - Tommy Loughran
    44 - Thomas Hearns
    45 - Jimmy Bivins
    46 - Ike Williams
    47 - Floyd Mayweather
    48 - Manny Pacquiao
     
  2. progamer

    progamer Boxing Junkie banned

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    corpsejr is never going to be above pac in any atg rankings.

    fotd and 3 atgs in resume, just beat a top 3 p4p at 35 in his 7th div.

    corpsejr wouldnt have any accomplishment greater than that.
     
  3. Vanboxingfan

    Vanboxingfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I think they're in the ball park in terms of rankings. Both damn good fighters. I personally rank them higher than the majority in classic, but anything between 21-50 starts to get extremely subjective in an already subjective exercise.
     
  4. Alcanelo

    Alcanelo The Spider Full Member

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    Doesn't matter where they rank on a list as long as Pac Man is always ahead of Floyd. Anything other than that is just a farce
     
  5. t00nc3ss

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    Pac and Money are about dead even to me.

    Had Pac in the lead till he was put to sleep by Marquez but he gained ground after Bradley 2. Floyd lost a bit after his lackluster 1st bout with Maidana (had it either a draw or +1/+2 for Floyd depending on my mood) and he just barely did enough to win in their 2nd fight.

    Depending on how Manny does against Algeri will dictate their standing imo.
     
  6. Vanboxingfan

    Vanboxingfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I think it's close too. That's why even at this late stage a fight between them would be meaningful. The winner would likely go down in history as the one ranking higher than the loser, but I would assume they both know this.
     
  7. Sugah Jay

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    based on skills floyd is top 3 IMHO, best technical fighter on film, best hit and miss ratio. TBE
     
  8. jim jim

    jim jim Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    has pac not done a bit more than may
     
  9. MVC!

    MVC! The Best Ever Full Member

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    Nope.

    He ranks below May for a reason.
     
  10. TheGOAT

    TheGOAT The Champ is Here ! banned

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    Freddie...is that you?
     
  11. Gannicus

    Gannicus 2014 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    Pacquiao is definitely ahead of Floyd, I don't even think that's debatable tbh.
    Think about it properly..

    W Garcia - just adding a name because Manny will fight one more of these dudes.
    W Algieri
    W Bradley x 2 (a future HOF)
    W Rios
    NC Marquez (Marquez had a HGH gut and blatant roiding IMO)
    W Margarito
    W Clottey (decent, underrated win)
    W Cotto
    W Hatton
    W Diaz
    W Morales 2
    W Barrera x 2
    W Lehwaba
    W Sasakul
    D Marquez x 3 (I call it a draw because they were so even)

    History will be kind to Manny Pacquiao.
     
  12. jim jim

    jim jim Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    does pacquioo not have a more impressive resume
     
  13. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    Kinda loses a lot of credibility with this.

    Everything else seems relatively good, but...
     
  14. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    History is kind to almost every fighter who retires. Seldom are greats fully appreciated until years after they are retired for proper perspective. Find databases of rankings by the decade to see how time changes views.

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    As for ranking those wins, Rios/Margarito/Algieri are not truly noteworthy wins for a HOF-level fighter. They do little to boost a resume when the resume already is as great and deep as Pacquiao's is.
     
  15. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    This list loses all credibility when it doesn't rank Jack Johnson anywhere in the top 48. He holds victories over Sam Langford, apparently #1 according to these guys, and each of the top guys Langford beat to get ranked so highly (McVea, Jeannette) as well as his reign as HW champ... I'm not saying Jack Johnson has to rank ahead of Langford, but anyone who ranks Langford so highly better have Johnson right below if they are using any sort of consistent criteria (especially if they rank other fighters with less activity than Johnson above him, as the pure quantity of bouts Langford has would be the only real argument).