Where do people get the idea that someone has to be 2-1 in fights against an opponent?

... anti-trilogies? What a horrible take.

 

Topology? I'm assuming that is an MMA forum.

I still expected Joshua to win, but I can't be the only one who realised Ruiz Jr. was a far bigger challenge than Miller. It wasn't THAT big a shock when I read the news that Joshua lost, though I did laugh.

It just reminded me of when Lewis lost to Rahman, both clearly took their eye off the ball and didn't take their opponent seriously enough. Wilder's hyped KO of Breazeale probably influenced him to rush for the stoppage too.

A perfect storm and the American dream was over. Oh well, too bad for Joshua.

But rematch wasn't even competitive. Ruiz was limited to waddling helplessly after Joshua. I don't know why anyone thinks that win wasn't good enough. Joshua did what needed to be done and it looked like a complete mismatch by the end.

No interest in a third.

 

It initially was only about mma, now during recent years they add also boxing events and mixed events cards to discuss and place predictions.
Btw I think not bad web site. Mainly US posters, I think.

 

This logic makes me brain hurt.

 

For me it all depends on how competitive the fights were. I would much rather watch a 3rd Pac/Marquez fight than the 3rd Fury/Wilder fight. I don't think I heard people complain about those fights. Bottom line if the fights are good and competitive and the outcome isn't a foregone conclusion, I don't have an issue with trilogies.

 

You make a good point but Lewis knocked Rahman out and completely dominated McCall in that rematch while AJ looked very tentative out-boxing Ruiz.

 

After two fights the score remains: Ruiz four KDs; AJ, one... and a stoppage win vs one on points.

Had Joshua done unto Ruiz in the rematch what Ruiz inflicted on him in the first fight, I could accept an anomaly had been taken care of. But AJ chose to pot shot a fatter version of the fat man he lost to, and cruise to a points win. That leaves the score at 1-1 with an asterisk in residence...

 

Of course it isn't : cash cow is A.J.
Congratulations, U.K does have Ottke II and Canelo II.

 

It’s all about the money. If trilogy will make money it will happen.

 

They are OK under special circumstances. Very close or so action packed the fans are willing to pay again for it. Trilogies like Pac - Bradley or Fury - Wilder never needed a third.

 

Of course it makes a difference. Generally speaking, a stoppage win counts for more than a points win, especially in the eyes of the fighters involved (fighting pride and all that).

And when ring announcers read out a fighter's record before a fight they don't say ''25 wins, 5 of them by a wide points margin' do they?

And while I agree with you that a points win can sometimes be more impressive than a stoppage, AJ's performance in the 2nd fight was at best perfunctory. It wasn't a 'masterclass'.

Trust me the fact he didn't do to Ruiz what Ruiz did to him will irk AJ...

 

Bro I’m sorry for making your head spin in the British forum.

Have fun at your first time out to the boxing and do come back to give us a trip report.

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I am going to take a wild stab at it and say OP never seriously competed at any level of athletics.

 

Marquez was dropped four times in his first three bouts with Manny ...

Didn't win any of their bouts until their fourth match.

Now, many view Marquez the winner of the series ... as Manny ended it face down, out cold.