Where do you draw the line at Heavyweight vs Super Heavyweight ?

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  1. SuzieQ49

    SuzieQ49 The Manager Full Member

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    So you agree with chokelab...that Usyk and Gassiev survive the 15 round distance against prime versions of Lewis, Klitschkos, and Bowe?

    Yes or no
     
  2. choklab

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    Lewis I would favour over Usyk and Gassiev. Nowhere did I say Lewis wouldn’t. I specifically said it was Joshua and Fury who were less equipped at this point.
     
  3. choklab

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    I never said that you buffoon
     
  4. SuzieQ49

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    Funny how neither have the balls to step up to the heavyweight division and fight Joshua or Wilder for the big bucks...they prefer to cut down to 200lb and continue to make small pay days...


    Why is that? Perhaps they don't think they are big enough or good enough to defeat a skilled powerful big heavyweight
     
  5. SuzieQ49

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    You said 15 round distance they survive..did you not you little rat?
     
  6. SuzieQ49

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    Yet both of them refuse to step up and fight at heavyweight

    Why?
     
  7. SuzieQ49

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    Here it is...over 15 rounds and small gloves...you think Gassiev and Usyk survive the distance with Lewis Klitschkos and Bowe...
     
  8. choklab

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    Lewis and Bowe only over 240 for about 10% if their careers. To qualify as 250 pounders they would at least have to make a career if it at that weight. Don’t forget Lewis drew with a guy no bigger than either of them. Who knows if Gassiev and Usyk don’t pan out to match Mr Evan Fields with all he achieved against the Superheavyweights? I think it’s a bit early to entirely write them off just yet.

    Perhaps You seem to put more faith in Wilder, Fury and Joshua than they have so far deserved?
     
  9. SuzieQ49

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    I am hoping Usyk and Gassiev decide to grow a pair and move up and challenge Joshua and Wilder for a real pay day...but they won't..they will be content to stay at 200lb and take on the "safe" fights while there fans will cry for the ten years they could have beaten anyone at heavyweight :rolleyes:
     
  10. choklab

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    Well I don’t see any categorical proof that absolutely confirms Gassiev and Usyk might not last the distance with Lewis or Bowe or the Klitschkos at some point. Why not? Didn’t Mavrovic take Lewis the full distance? Holyfeild took both Bowe and Kewis the full distance. I don’t believe Mavrovic and an old Holyfield necessarily represent a higher echelon than Usyk or Gassiev may potentially produce?
     
  11. choklab

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    How do you know? I for one would be quite amused to see egg on your face if they move up.
     
  12. choklab

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    You seem troubled..
     
  13. SuzieQ49

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    The guy who went life and death with dorticos and lebedev is going to go up to heavyweight and challenge anthony Joshua?

    Sureeeeeee


    I'll believe it when I see it


    Instead..they can be content with their little paydays while wilder and Joshua make all the money
     
  14. choklab

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    Think of the guys who moved up. Bryd, Toney, Jones, Holyfeild, Moorer, Tarver, Cunningham..

    If Usyk and Gassiev don’t move up would it be more unusual than seeing egg on your face?
     
  15. SuzieQ49

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    They could move up..I wouldn't be surprised

    But I'll make you a bet..a life time forum ban to the winner of Joshua vs Gassiev if it happens.I take Joshua. Will you take Gassiev?

    We will make the bet official