Where do you Draw the Line of what are reasonable arguments between eras?

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by Entaowed, Oct 14, 2022.


Is it Sane to consider that maybe even an Ali (or Louis) might not be a very good fighter today?

  1. Yes, there is a decent chance even Ali would not be very good in recent times.

    19.2%
  2. Yes, in fact it is likely.

    3.8%
  3. We have no decent idea of how great or bad Ali would do from the '90's onward.

    11.5%
  4. No, while anything is possible-like if recent champs are sent back in time-it seems very unlikely.

    30.8%
  5. No, belief a unique ATG Usyk's size could not be great implies institutionalization is appropriate.

    34.6%
  1. Bukkake

    Bukkake Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think people basically see, what they want to see. Everybody wants to see something, that they feel confirms/backs up their agenda.

    If your mission here is to put down the present - then you'll see moden fighters who have lost the oldtime skills, and therefore are inferior to boxers from decades ago.

    On the other hand, if you feel boxing is evolving with time, and today is the best time ever - then you might argue, that most of the oldtimers were so primitive, that they shouldn't even be allowed to share a ring with their modern counterparts!

    And of course all of this takes place only in our fantasy... so there's obviously no "right" or "wrong" in these discussions!
     
  2. FastLeft

    FastLeft Well-Known Member Full Member

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    if he can beat him him. he is better.
    that is how the ' who is better?' question is answered.
     
  3. Bukkake

    Bukkake Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yes, the winner of a fight is obviously the better man. So Fury is probably a better HW than charles. When I say "better", I mean that Charles was (imo) the more skillful and technically superior of the two... which, however, likely wouldn't be enough to overcome Fury's enormous size advantage (again, imo!).
     
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  4. Entaowed

    Entaowed Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Sometimes the winner of a fight is only better against that opponent-they may have a worse career &/or be worse in hypothetical match-ups, but have a stylistic &/or psychological advantage against the other man.