Where do you guys rank Manny Pacquiao all time status

Margo and Cotto are both names that Floyd ducked. Shane was old and shot when they fought (just look how Floyd's biggest accomplishment is now a joke fight vs Pac ) Marquez, c'mon now. Hatton was not in his prime weight either. Oscar, well he wasn't a prime Oscar, but a good win for Floyd. See I can do this **** all day too.

 

Ok. Mayweather beat both Baldomir and Judah and didn't need to drain em down to 145 or 144 to ensure victory. Skills. Floyd Mayweather beat Judah, Baldomir, Mosley and beat them at the division limit of 147 lbs. No silly ass fear-inspired weight draining tactics were needed by Floyd just skills. When Floyd Mayweather moved up in weight to fight Castillo and Gatti did little(at the time he was) Floyd feel the need to drain Castillo to 132 and Gatti down to 137? No he didn't. He fought them at 135 and 140 respectively and whipped the **** out of them.

 

Drained/bloated whatever its in the same ***** category.

 

Both Manny Pacquiao and Floyd Mayweather rank anywhere from 30-50 all time. There is no way imo that they are in the top 20. Floyd hasn't fought someone at their best since hatton. But since he didn't fight hatton at his best weight then I would have to say castillo. Manny hasn't fought someone at their best since Marquez back in 04. Not in 08 because Marquez was 34 going on 35. There is no way they rank that high if there not fighting the best constantly.

 

When Floyd moved up to 135 he fought the best(for you dumbasses new to the sport it was Jose Luis Castillo).
Who did Manny fight again? Whatshisname Diaz? David "Havent done ****" Diaz. Nevermind the Diaz with the other 3 titles(at the time Juan Diaz was steamrolling 135)...Thats right add Juan Diaz to the list of blatantly obvious avoided fighters by "Pacman".

 

My take on Mosley is that, at that time Pac was untested at that weight and no one in their right minds would fight anyone would Mosley's power to test the waters so to speak. So they went with Cotto. After the Cotto fight, Mosley was set to fight Berto so Pac couldn't fight him. I agree that Hatton was a good win for Floyd, but strongly disagree about Marquez. Castillo, I remember thinking Floyd won a close one, I'd have to rewatch it and get back to you on that. And I couldn't care less about what anyone says, but Floyd has ducked the toughest competition at WW. Either that or he is just a victim of very unfortunate circumstances that make it appear that way.

 

What are the official excuses for ducking Juan Diaz?
And to be honest Floyd got really beaten against Castillo in their first fight by a wide margin...This could be termed as Floyd's only "honest" defeat.....Then Floyd schools Castillo in the rematch and somehow people come to grips with him losing the first fight.
The only reason Pac fought Cotto is because he'd been plastered by Margo already....the theme continues with Margo and now Mosley(now that Floyd has thoroughly schooled him Manny feels secure enough in his own ability to beat him)

 

Yea true . He was undefeated for 8 years and was the lineal champ when Floyd fought him. I guess I can't fault him for that. But he should have kept fighting instead of retiring.

 

well duh pac is the goat, how many other china-man be doing whats he's doing?

cum-slurpin slut.

 

The most popular opinion is that he is ranked top 20, which makes the two nearest scenarios (top 10 and top 30) plausible and not unimaginable. There is really nothing to explain. What needs explaining are the very far side scenarios, GOAT and outside of top 50.

By the way, I voted 11-20.