I can't put Estrada up there because he wasn't as seasoned as he is now. If choco beat him now, that would be his best win. But, right now besides El Gallo or inoue or rematch Cuadras, which are the big fights, it's back down to 112 he goes... to me he's too small for 115-118.
Caudras beat him and caudras knows it, estrada also beat him, I guarantee you've never seen the fight and some other posters here to, he's ranked p4p because hbo want him there that's how they market him when's it's a blatant lie, I can't imagine the one sided boxing lesson he would get off rigondeaux at 118 it would be hilarious
The problem with this is that he began his p4p storm before he was on HBO. June 2014. His closest fight to that date was with Juan Purisima. Certainly not on HBO.
It was 2015 before he fought in the US. By then he was lineal at fly, held belts at three weights and was ranked #2 p4p.
you have got to be joking purisima? is a jouneyman with 9 losses around that time and even after he was fighting guys with 10 plus losses
That's a different argument. This argument is about your insistence that Gonzalez is ranked #1 p4p because of an HBO conspiracy. That's clearly nonsense, and the timeline of his movement up most p4p lists before he was on HBO clearly demonstrates this.
wrong again! before hbo he was sitting around 5 p4p maybe 6 at the time! after hbo picked him up he fought a guy called valentin leon a guy with 32 losses! he was moved up to 2 p4p after that win, how could that warrant a move up the list? anyone who has him above 5 knows nothing about boxing
That's the beauty of him taking these risks. I don't know about seasoned but Estrada gave him a hell of a fight. Estrada got outhustled too.
Estrada beats him now. He's much more refined than before, and Gonzalez lost to Cuadras, so I'm sure he gets beat in the rematch. He will gas.
both are mexican schooled boxers and they outboxed him, imagine a slick skilled boxer vs gonzalez they'd embarrass him, it's laughable this whole p4p thing
Nothing i've posted is "wrong" in the post you've quoted. I wrote: "That's clearly nonsense, and the timeline of his movement up most p4p lists before he was on HBO clearly demonstrates this." You wrote: "before hbo he was sitting around 5 p4p maybe 6 at the time!" This is incorrect. TBRB ranked him #3 in November 2014. That's 3 months before he fought Leon. The guys above him were Mayweather (since retired) and Pacquiao (since retired, and come back). What rankings are you using, exactly?