Where do you have Roman Gonzalez p4p?

i'm struggling to make myself understood here I think. These "10 fights" weren't tune ups, no. But you are appraising these fighters as they are now. So, if a fighter was ranked when Gonzalez met him, and his career has since gone down the toilet, you are appraising the fighter in the toilet. It makes no sense. None. In ten years on this forum I have literally never seen it, that is how odd and bizarre it is.

 

Strange, then, that i've had more likes for my posts in this thread than you have in your entire posting history

No. I already explained to you what he was, in detail:

In 2014, he fought the world's #1 flyweight (Yaegashi), a top-ten ranked light-fly (Fuentes) and in two stay busy fights, against Purisma and Kantum. Most fighters don't bother with the stay busy fights; most fighters don't bother to fight this level of oppositions on undercards etc. Nobody is holding these as a part of Roman's legacy except you; it's literally just you.

At the worst, they should be ignored. To understand Roman in 2014, look at his defeat of the world's best flyweight and another ranked fighter. This compares favourobly with Mayweather's 2014, where he took on the world's #7 welterweight Marcos Maidana (up to #5 by the time of their second fight).

Please read and my posts carefully in order that I don't have to repeat myself in this way; also, let me know which account you want to keep because you can't have both of them.

 

He was the best flyweight in the world, and the lineal champion.

 

The same way that Henry Armstrong became the best fighter in the world after eleven decisive losses, that Archie Moore became the best in the world after losing a dozen, the same way Glen Johnson became the best light-heavyweight in the world after losing a dozen. There are literally 100 examples of this.

I don't think you know much about boxing, kid.

Now, you have two accounts posting the same jibberish, do you have a preference as to which one you keep?

 

Do you mean era? If you want generational parity, you're already wrong as Glen Johnson was fighting at the same time as Gonzalez. But, you have Manny Pacquiao (three "decisive losses" before becoming p4p #1), Wladimir Klitschko (three "decisive losses" before becoming divisional #1), Juan Manuel Marquez (three "decisive losses" before becoming p4p top ten and one of the best in the world).

The list goes on and on.

Having three divisional losses is no barrier to becoming #1 in your division, as demonstrated by the fact that all these guys, and Yaegeshi, were ranked very highly, including by Ring, who you seem to esteem above all others.

are you kidding? You've called me names, you're showing the most bizarre form in finding ways to undermine a pro fighter including levellng accusations of a sport-wide conspiracy theory and I'm bitter?

Well, it's in trouble then; almost everyone whose serious who publishes a p4p list has Gonzalez at #1. I guess this is all explained by bitterness, fanboyism, casual fans etc.

And i'm not going to ask again - you have two active accounts which is not allowed. Pick which one you want to keep or i'll just ban one of my choosing. That will happen if you don't respond directly with a selection. Just say which one you want to keep.

 

No. By presenting their final records as opposed to the one when they fought him (this, for example, would make Kid Gavilan into a 30 loss fighter), by running down Yaegashi who was the world's flyweight champion, by ignoring the points that are presented to you refuting your argument that he can't be the best in the world at a time after he has three losses on his record etc.

everyone?

Ok - post me a link to one boxing inside/writer/fighter/promoter - just one - who supports your position.

One.