Where do you have Terence Crawford in ATG ranking?

I do think the Manny that knocked out Hatton and the version of Floyd that beat Marquez and Canelo would've beaten Crawford pretty comfortably. Crawford doesn't have any A-tier wins aside from Canelo and Spence, whereas Manny and Floyd have about 2 dozen between them.

 

I'll add that, while Bud could only fight who was put in front of him, he was pretty inactive near the end. A win over Boots wouldn't have hurt.

 

We should have seen that fight.

 

That’s true. But I think that they’d have been tough stylistic match ups.

 

This one fight against Horn proves it....

 

How many HOFers will TC have on his ledger? Like....just Canelo? Doesn't help his ATG status to be honest.

 

Where’s the poll on the Canelo v Crawford winner?

Because everyone is sure playing that win down now for some reason…

 

Unfulfilled Potential

I think Crawford had the skills to achieve more

 

I wouldn't rate him anywhere. He's had a great career but not an "all time great" career.

 

Higher then anybody from 1980 on

 

Pernell
RJJ
Floyd
Pac

All rank higher.

 

In some ways, I view Crawford as the opposite of Canelo. His resume, specifically the list of marquee names he’s beaten, actually understates his head-to-head prowess, whereas Canelo’s resume is stacked with recognizable names and multiple Hall of Famers, but doesn’t always reflect the same level of dominance in pure head-to-head matchups.

Because of that, I find Crawford difficult to rank historically. It really depends on the criteria you use and how heavily you weight certain factors - names, dominance, eye test, or versatility. And then there’s the sheer scope of what he’s done: moving from 135 to 168, becoming undisputed in three divisions, and collecting 19 belts along the way. Even if his list of signature names isn’t overwhelming, that kind of sustained excellence across so many weight classes is hard to ignore. I wouldn't really take issue with anybody having him inside the top 50 (or higher), or anybody having him between 50 and 100 (provided the rest of the rankings are reasonably consistent with the specified criteria).

 

He's an all time great.

 

Pacquiao's first world title was at 112lbs, let that sink in. He's an 8 division world champ.

 

In terms of what makes an ATG or ‘debatable ATG’s’
- he should be embarrassed to suggest he’d be anything more than a stain on the seat of Carlos Palominos, Esteban De Jesus’ or Joe Calzaghe’s trunks