Where do you rank Bob Foster at light-heavyweight?

top 5 to 10

 

He's #1 easily!! Foster would easily knockout Charles in 3








































Im just kidding George

 

Foster is a rare enigma in boxing .
He destroyed fighters he was supposed
to destroy, yet because of it, some see
them all as inferior and he doesn't get
the credit deserved .
Is his competition that much worse
than what Louis , Holmes , or Monzon faced?
While I can understand why he shouldn't
be number one to three, but not top five?
Not in the top ten?
I disagree.
In some cases some great fighters
unfortunately come along when a
ultimate challenge or multiple good
fighters are around . Call it fate.
But what we CAN judge is how they
handled the competition that WAS
available to them.
Foster damn near killed every LT.
heavyweight he faced in his prime.
He beat his competition more
convincingly than Holmes or
Monzon.
His level of destruction was Joe Louis
like, but without the knock downs at
Lt.heavyweight.
Personally , I rank him #4 behind
Spinks,Moore and Charles because
they did face better competition.
Head to Head? # 1, his combination
of skills, physical advantages,
and extreme power would be
extremely dangerous if not overwhelming
to any Lt.heavy in history.

 

I disagree with the notion that one can just shrug away the deficiencies in his competition and merely say "Well he fought who was out there, so we have to give him full credit." Sucks for him I guess but the reality is his competition was very sorely lacking, and logic tells us that has to have some kind of tangible effect on how he's rated. It has to matter. It seems to for everyone else.

Unless there are qualities to Andy Kendall I'm simply missing.

And yes, Monzon's and Holmes' competition was decidedly better. So was Louis', to a smaller degree.

 

Listen sunshine.... when I get my hands on yo-

 

This is about right, no matter how you slice the rest of the list.

 

While I agree that Foster doesn't have many hugely impressive names on his resume and his historical rating should take a hit for that, some of the replies in this thread have been unnecessarily harsh. Comparing him to Deontay Wilder and saying that he 'basically did nothing" are huge, huge disservices to his legacy.

I agree with the general notion that he's in the 7-10 range.

 

I didn't do that

I simply said that for a talented fighter, longevity isn't the be all and end all. Wilder being my example. It shouldn't be a substitute for beating other great fighters.

 

A huge difference between him and Wilder (bedsides the obvious) is that Foster was consistently beating top ranked opponents and also was lineal and undisputed champion whereas Wilder held a trinket, didn’t fight more than one or two ranked guys and lost the first time he fought someone good.

I think your Pascual Perez comparison was better since both beat multiple ranked guys, dethroned excellent champions and reigned as the true undisputed champion for years.

 

I didn't shrug away the competition question. Its the reason I had him 4th. I think I wrote that. Maybe theirs some qualities in Tonna or S.Frank, Rodriguez , or Galento I missed ( They weren't that much better than Kendall, if at all) this is a ugly road to go down. Anyone can go down any fighters resume pop up a few obscure names as some bench mark of their ability to prove a point.
Obviously I'm sure you know Kendall wasn't the best Foster fought. Or at least I hope you do.
I understand the competition question, I'm the biggest proponent of who a fighter considered an ATG fought and just as important, when they fought them.
But I also trust my eyes. Foster had everthing needed to be the G.O.A.T at Lt. Heavyweight.
Foster did things to opponents that we rarely see, and he did it consistently.
I've watched many of Fosters fight in their entirety. I'm not a highlight reel warrior.
I take the time to study a fighter in depth. He did everthing one wants to see in a fighter considered atg.
I'm old enough to have seen many of Spinks, Saad Muhammad's, Mustafa Muhammad, and Qawi fights live as they happened.
I've watched many of Moore's and Charles fights. I wouldn't bet a dime with any of them over Foster.
But yes I agree with you, the competition factor is a major issue with him. I don't discount that fact.

 

There better be some die hard Pascual Perez haters among you

 

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Fair enough!