Where do you rank Carl Froch in the SMW division?

3rd

Ward is 1

Froch lost moves to 3

Bute moves up from 3 to 2

its irrelevant because the 2 and 3 however you have it are fighting

 

I honestly think Dirrell beats Bute, and i no froch had problems with Dirrell but he still got the win, i agree Bute has more skills than Froch but so has many of Frochs opponents but he still finds a way to win.

 

I think it's fair to say he's 3rd after the Ward loss. He'll be 2nd again when he beats Bute though. :hat

 

yes but how can you rate Bute higher when the best wins on his record are against Johnson, Bika and miranda. Froch has fought and proved himself at a higher level of competition than Bute atm

 

It's not just about resumes. Resumes don't fight. 50/50 with H2H potential, and you have legit rankings in my book - and that of a lot of people.

Froch had his hands full with Johnson in rounds 7 & 8, could argue that Johnson won 1 or 2 of the first 4 rounds as well. Bute didn't give him a single round.

Have you seen Bika-Bute? Bika-Ward? In one of those two fights, Bika couldn't do jack **** after 3 rounds.

Bute not being afforded the opportunity to battle against shot Taylor and ineffective Abraham as part of the S6 shouldn't be a big plus in Froch's favor when considering SMW rankings IMO.

 

Well it's highly debatable and subjective indeed. :hat

 

Pas d'accord. :hat

 

3rd

Dirrell
Ward
Froch

 

:rofl

 

You can also say AA > Miranda and Dirrell > Bika :hat
Or Dirrell > Miranda & Bika combined :hat

I believe the fight against Mikkel was very close and could have gone either way.

 

Ok let's say these 3 fights are equal. Froch has also wins over Taylor and Pascal, what else has Bute ?

 

...a win over then Ring #3 Andrade? KO'ed him when he was still relevant at Ring #5? :think

Kessler couldn't even rock Andrade.

 

Ward
Bute
Froch

Until Froch beats Bute he is third, the Romanian is undefeated. Also, until Bute beats Ward he is second. But if Bute beats Froch in his hometown via KO I might rank Lucian first and Andre second. If Bute wins Froch only via decision he is still second.

Dirrell and Kessler: injuries.

 

I had forgotten about Andrade atsch

You know what, we will be fixed on may 26th ! :deal May the best man win.