Where Do You Rank Evander Holyfield As A Heavyweight?

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  1. lefthook31

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    :nono Avenging a loss to Bowe is not the same as avenging a loss to Rahman or Mcall. Your first paragraph is,, I dont know what to say??
     
  2. The Kurgan

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    Didn't Jimmy Carter go 1-1? Including a loss to a punch-drunk opponent WAY past his prime?
     
  3. The Kurgan

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    Does Holyfield's recent performance against Valuev affect his ranking in anyone's eyes? How many 46 year olds have OUTBOXED a top 5 heavyweight, even if they were robbed of the decision?
     
  4. Muchmoore

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    Doesn't change it around too much, but it shows that it takes a very top end Super Heavyweight to take down Holyfield.
     
  5. mr. magoo

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    I think it may help him a tad, but one still needs to get the official "W" before it can truly be added to a legacy. Had he received the decision however, it certainly would have boosted him up a spot or two on my list. Being the oldest man to regain a title and against by far, the the largest belt holder in history would have been a huge accomplishment.
     
  6. Quick Cash

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    Robbery or no, it still only looks good on paper. If we actually look at who he outboxed, it's not so impressive even at age 46. For me, it doesn't put him in the same league as Foreman. This was more of a statistic; Foreman-Moorer was an accomplishment.
     
  7. he grant

    he grant Historian/Film Maker

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    I would rate the Bowe who fought Evander over any Vitali I have seen.
     
  8. Quick Cash

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    I might be wrong, but wasn't his record just 13 successful defenses? That would put him behind at least three other men by my reckoning. Louis famously set the record high at 25 consecutive defenses. Holmes has 20. And Ali mustered a total of 19 over two reigns aswell (excluding his defenses pre-Foreman of the newly invented NABF heavyweight belt).

    This is completely beside the point you were making, but for the sake of accuracy...
     
  9. Unforgiven

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    Agreed.
     
  10. Rubber Warrior

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    Somewhere very high. ;)
     
  11. Quick Cash

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  12. junior-soprano

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    somewhere between 10 and 15
     
  13. Unforgiven

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  14. Maxmomer

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    Borderline top-10. Wins over the likes of Tyson, Bowe, Moorer, Foreman, Rahman and Mercer. Freakish longevity, and almost all of his losses have occurred past his prime. He's a pretty big H2H threat also.
     
  15. Minotauro

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