Where do you rank Jack Dempsey??

Laying down being, of course, a common side-effect of eating big right hands.

Why don't you do an in-depth analysis of the fight footage and upload it to Youtube? Be part of the solution for once.

 

Don't be so dismissive. He's at least three kids.

 

Even Johnsons staunchest admirers acknowledge that he was KOd legitimately.

The only people who beleive otherwise are either people who havn't looked into the matter or conspiracy theorists.

 

I am of the opinion that Johnson was knocked down but figured he may as well stay down 'cause he wasn't going to win.

 

If you think Johnson dived then present the case.

I would be interested.

 

Jesus these guys suck.

He was a joke.

All this from a person who would probably break down and cry if he had to step into the ring with any profesional fighter.

 

I suspected McCall was typing those posts! (Now we all know!)

 

Geoffrey C. Ward's biography of Johnson, "Unforgivable Blackness"
backs up Janitor. Why is he out of touch? I think that not only
Ward, but most sources, think this fight was on the level. The
idea that it was fixed faded fast once the film surfaced back in
the 1960's and people saw the effort Johnson put into knocking
out Willard.
Critics might consider Willard just a big lummox, but having worked
in the fields with temps in the 90 to 100 range, I can't imagine how
difficult it would be to wrestle around a 230 lb man, even if he is
only a lummox, for 26 rounds. It is no surprise to me that Johnson
ran out of gas.

 

I rank Dempsey rather low. He had only 6 title defenses in 7 years, and failed to defend against #1 black contender Harry Wills. Dempsey is not worthy of a top slot in my opinion..

 

Thats so true mate,willard was a huge strong man,and i dont think the johnson fight was fixed myself,he just gassed out and then got koed,willard was pretty decent at times,its just when he took on dempsey,he took on a vicious killer that day,also the bet his manager had made to win in one round,made him even more determined to finish him,i give willard huge respect to go to round 4 or what ever he got to,after that first round beating he took.

 

Ward describes Johnson as being confused after regaining his feet.
Sam McVey had tell him it was over. That sounds like he was
knocked out.

That referee was Jack Welch. He was as crooked as they come. I
wouldn't believe a word he said, but his participation at all certainly
raises the smell factor a few notches.

 

I Am New At All Of This But I Think Dempsey Is In The Top 5 Along With Jeffries, Marciano, Louis,ali,in No Paticular Order Its To Hard When You Get At This Level,remember This Is In There Prime Dempsey And Jeffries Were Unstopable In There Prime ,in His Prime Jeffries Would Have Smoked Johnson Likr A Pack Of Cools---ha-ha

 

Nobody ever has or ever will throw a fight by taking a dive after 20+ rounds. There would just be too many variables to control.

If you think that this is what hapened then you are living in la la land.

 

So he tried to win untill he realized he was going to loose anyway then took a dive?

That is still a win for Willard.

 

Well you've got conjecture and speculation. Those are kinds of evidence.