Where do you rank Jersey Joe Walcott ?

most of the men walcott lost too in the 1930s when he was well before his best were long retired by the time walcott came back to boxing in 1945.


But as far as walcotts losses in the 40s and 50s go, he avenged all losses in rematches except rex layne, rocky marciano losses. I also have theories that the layne-walcott bout may have been a fix.


Rusell did you not see how hectic of a fighting schedule walcott had 1945-1947? That is like wladimir Klitschko fighting a Ring Magazine top 10 heavyweight contender every couple months for 3 years!

 

I can't give Walcott THAT much slack for having to be active.

Look at Joe Louis in the same time period, or even what Marciano accomplished in eight years.

 

Marciano was greater, but didnt come close to fighting the same competition walcott did, and he did not fight as many ranked contenders.


If Marciano had fought Clarence Henry, Bob Baker, Jimmy Bivins, Bob Satterfield, as well as the other guys he beat pre title, than he could lay claim to fighting the same level of comp.


Louis was very active, but he did not take on the top black fighters of his era like walcott did.



If theres one thing about walcott, its he was not protected and fought practically everyone out their worthy.

 

That is a pretty good post. Walcott nailed rocky with a carbon copy shot in which he nailed charles, I think walcott was shocked to see rocky get up at 3.

 

Louis took on fighters equally dangerous.

Doesn't really matter if they were white skinned or black.

 

Equally as dangerous as Elmer Ray, Jimmy Bivins, Lee Q Murray, Like who???

 

You don't perceive Buddy Baer as dangerous? The guy who you've hyped up in other threads?

 

Sure hes dangerous. But I think the 3 I mentioned above were better fighters. Louis Camp during WW II talked about how dangerous Harry Bobo Elmer Ray and Murray were as punchers and feared throwing Louis in the ring with those men.

 

What I am saying is that Walcott had beaten most of the top 10 from 1944-48 before he even steped into the ring with Louis. Sure he had setbacks in doing it eg Maxim, Ray, but he still cleaned house.

If Louis had declined to fight him in 1948 then comparisons with Sam Langford and Harry Wills would have been waranted.

At the end of the day Walcott is a paradox. He fought as a trial hoprse through his pre war career while holding down a 9-6 job. When he got a good manager he sudenly started tearing up the division and Louis didnt see him coming untill he was on top of him.

 

You would have to regard Max Schmeling as being prety dangerous given their first fight.

 

One fighter today who verry much makes me think of Joe Walcott is Glen Johnson.

The journeyman who took the journey all the way to the top, taking unfavourable fights against the best, rough decisions at times, ultimately beating the best and earning the love and admiration of the fans.

 

Johnson has lost so many bad decisions it's disgusting.

I don't know if anyone beats him out there.

 

Everyone in General feels he was robbed, so that's telling.