Where do you rank Joe Gans?

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  1. Reinhardt

    Reinhardt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I think he's,,very good! You can easily match him with any 135 pounder that ever lived. No doubt top 5 in any ratings of that division.
     
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  2. White Bomber

    White Bomber Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Roberto Durán says hi :rolleyes:
     
  3. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Tell him his era-on-era resume is severely lacking in comparison when you see him.
     
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  4. Minotauro

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    Number 1 lightweight and have him 8 p4p.
     
  5. Dempsey1238

    Dempsey1238 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Gans imo can be ranked anywhere in the top 5 lightweights of all time.
     
  6. Bulldog24

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    Possibly the best ever.
     
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  7. Kamikaze

    Kamikaze Bye for now! banned Full Member

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    What about p4p?
     
  8. Melankomas

    Melankomas Corbett beats your favourite fighter

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    Number 7 all time, behind Ezzard Charles
     
  9. Greg Price99

    Greg Price99 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    #2 all time at LW based solely on fights contested in that divison (I.e. I have Duran higher p4p based on their entire careers at all weights but lower bases solely on LW fights) and #13 all time P4P.
     
  10. Mike Cannon

    Mike Cannon Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Hi Guys.
    At LW top 3 ( Leonard/Duran as you like )
    Not got time or energy for a P4P, but would say somewhere between 10 and 15 maybe ?
    stay safe posters.
     
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  11. AntonioMartin1

    AntonioMartin1 Jeanette Full Member

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    With guys like him, Benny Leonard, Gene Tunney, Battling Nelson, John L Sullivan, George Gardner, Ted Kid Lewis, Philadelphia Jack O Brien, Young Stribling, Young Corbett, Daniel Mendoza , Sam Langford, Sixto Excobar and the like its really hard,

    There is no film or too little of it to judge, and we only have newspaper accounts, which were biased and sometimes even racial;y motivated.

    So we really dont know.

    But I read a book on him and really respect his ability, he seemed to be something special and in fact was still fighting when severelly ill.

    Amazing!
     
  12. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member

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    I have it
    Leonard
    Gans
    Williams
    Duran
     
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  13. kingfisher3

    kingfisher3 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    highly.

    i'm not the guy to care if he's number 4 or 10 all time.

    gans was tough, smart, had good technique and was physically top tier. what else could you want?
     
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  14. Greg Price99

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    You're not going to like my ranking of Williams, McVey.

    Based solely on contests fought at LW (small allowance made for non title contests staged just over the limit), I have it:

    Leonard
    Gans
    Duran
    McFarland
    Whittaker
    Ortiz
    Williams
    Ambers
    Welsh
    Canzernori

    Williams was a brilliant LW with a fantastic win resume, but with the defeats, he suffered in and around his prime years, he wasn't as dominant as the 6 I have above him, imo.
     
  15. mcvey

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    Your opinion is as valid as mine maybe more so. GP
     
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