Where do you rank Oleksandr Usyk as an ATG great heavyweight?

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Where do you rank Oleksandr Usyk?

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  1. Best heavyweight ever

    17.1%
  2. 2-5

    32.5%
  3. 6 to 10

    24.8%
  4. 11-15

    13.7%
  5. 16-20

    7.7%
  6. 21-50

    0.9%
  7. 51-100

    1.7%
  8. Below the top 100

    1.7%
  1. TNSNO1878

    TNSNO1878 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Oh yeah, I'd definitely back Usyk to win, but I don't think he'd coast to it, the same Usyk that lost rounds to Chisora and had great 12-rounders with Gasiev and Breidis? If Fury could stun him with an uppercut, then Foreman had the power to hurt him. I rate Usyk, but I don't think he's indestructible like a lot of people seem to. He knocked out an extremely limited fighter who he already knocked out a few years ago, it's done nothing for his legacy I think. Not sure why people are getting hysterical over it.
     
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  2. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    Surely only on a H2H basis.

    You can’t rank a HW top 3 of all time, after only having fought just 5 HW’s.

    That’s ludicrous.
     
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  3. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    He’s only fought 5 guys.
     
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    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    We have no idea if Usyk could have beaten Bowe or Mike.
     
  5. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    Surely this is a joke??
     
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  6. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    He’s only fought 5 guys at the weight.
     
  7. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    How does that make sense?

    So: He’s lower top 10, after having had only 5 opponents, but then he’d jump significantly higher, upon beating Joseph Parker??

    Let’s calm down a bit.
     
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  8. PrimoGT

    PrimoGT Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    His cruiserweight career can count to heavyweight ranking because in history a lot of heavyweights were that size.
    But I just don't see his best wins (Fury, Briedis, Gassiev, Dubois, Joshua) as great heavyweight. Fury's the best of that lot and he struggled with Ngannou in preparation for Usyk.
     
  9. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    Usyk could barely beat Mairis Breidis in his prime.
     
  10. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    A top 5 guy EASILY?

    Based upon just 5 opponents??
     
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  11. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    Another bizarre post.

    Top 3?

    On ability/H2H?

    Your personal top 3 favourite?

    How can he be a top 3 HW, after only having fought just 5 opponents??
     
  12. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    The man has only fought 5 HW’s in his life.
     
  13. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    Top 5 after having fought only 5 guys??
     
  14. Perkin Warbeck

    Perkin Warbeck Boxing Aficionado Full Member

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    How many pro wins does Usyk have over former champions?

    Fury X 2 (former unified and former linear and Ring champion)
    Dubois X 2
    Joshua X 2 (former unified champion)
    Bellew
    Glowacki
    Huck
    Briedis
    Gassiev

    That's 11 in only 24 pro fights! And mostly in the opponents' home countries, never in his own home country.

    Plus Olympic Gold and numerous international titles, at both heavyweight and light heavyweight.

    WHO ELSE HAS EVER UNIFIED ALL FOUR TITLES IN TWO DIFFERENT WEIGHT DIVISIONS?
    You keep repeating the same thing over and over. Stop spamming my thread!

    We get it, you always discredit and disparage certain fighters. If we had a time machine and sent Usyk back to fight all those old guys, and he beat them all, you'd still say he's not good, for the same reason you always try to prove Calzaghe was no good.
     
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  15. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    I’m not spamming your thread, genius.

    And I’m asking legitimate questions.

    And if you had any knowledge of me and my posts, you would know that I am a HUGE fan of Usyk.

    He is actually my current favourite fighter.

    I have often labelled him as being a genius.

    I love him as a fighter, and I think that he’s an incredible role model for the sport.

    He’s a gentleman.

    Now what he’s done in such a short space of time, is remarkable. And especially as he’s took whatever the purse is and travelled out of his comfort zone to the opponents back yard.

    Frankly, I love the guy.

    However, he cannot be ranked as the GOAT at HW, or in the top 5, after literally only having fought just 5 opponents.

    Now that should be obvious to ANYBODY.

    Now if we’re talking on ability, okay.

    Or if he’s someone’s favourite fighter, or top 3 favourite, then fine.

    But if not, then it makes a mockery of the division’s history.

    Now I am not spamming your thread, I have simply put the same question to different posters.

    Regarding Joe Calzaghe, I have never said that he was no good. And I have always referred to him as being a great fighter. I have only said that he’s overrated by many, as he has a poor overall resume for someone so talented.
     
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