Where do you rank Oleksandr Usyk as an ATG great heavyweight?

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Where do you rank Oleksandr Usyk?

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  1. Best heavyweight ever

    19 vote(s)
    17.0%

  2. 2-5

    35 vote(s)
    31.3%

  3. 6 to 10

    29 vote(s)
    25.9%

  4. 11-15

    15 vote(s)
    13.4%

  5. 16-20

    9 vote(s)
    8.0%

  6. 21-50

    1 vote(s)
    0.9%

  7. 51-100

    2 vote(s)
    1.8%

  8. Below the top 100

    2 vote(s)
    1.8%
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  1. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    Great post, genius.

    And when has Usyk fought a guy like Bowe 3 times??

    When has he fought a guy like Lennox twice??

    We have no idea if he could have beaten those guys.

    And how many pro fights and total fights had Evander had at that stage??

    Usyk is great. But he has fought lesser fighters. And he’s only fought 24 pro fights and 5 HW’s.

    Do you know what’s a joke?

    People using recency bias, without having the knowledge to apply any CONTEXT.
     
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  2. TNSNO1878

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    Oh yeah, I'd definitely back Usyk to win, but I don't think he'd coast to it, the same Usyk that lost rounds to Chisora and had great 12-rounders with Gasiev and Breidis? If Fury could stun him with an uppercut, then Foreman had the power to hurt him. I rate Usyk, but I don't think he's indestructible like a lot of people seem to. He knocked out an extremely limited fighter who he already knocked out a few years ago, it's done nothing for his legacy I think. Not sure why people are getting hysterical over it.
     
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  3. Loudon

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    Surely only on a H2H basis.

    You can’t rank a HW top 3 of all time, after only having fought just 5 HW’s.

    That’s ludicrous.
     
    Loudon, Jul 20, 2025
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  4. Loudon

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    He’s only fought 5 guys.
     
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  5. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    We have no idea if Usyk could have beaten Bowe or Mike.
     
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  6. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    Surely this is a joke??
     
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  7. Loudon

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    He’s only fought 5 guys at the weight.
     
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  8. Loudon

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    How does that make sense?

    So: He’s lower top 10, after having had only 5 opponents, but then he’d jump significantly higher, upon beating Joseph Parker??

    Let’s calm down a bit.
     
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  9. PrimoGT

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    His cruiserweight career can count to heavyweight ranking because in history a lot of heavyweights were that size.
    But I just don't see his best wins (Fury, Briedis, Gassiev, Dubois, Joshua) as great heavyweight. Fury's the best of that lot and he struggled with Ngannou in preparation for Usyk.
     
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  10. Loudon

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    Usyk could barely beat Mairis Breidis in his prime.
     
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  11. Loudon

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    A top 5 guy EASILY?

    Based upon just 5 opponents??
     
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  12. Loudon

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    Another bizarre post.

    Top 3?

    On ability/H2H?

    Your personal top 3 favourite?

    How can he be a top 3 HW, after only having fought just 5 opponents??
     
    Loudon, Jul 20, 2025
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  13. Loudon

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    The man has only fought 5 HW’s in his life.
     
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    Top 5 after having fought only 5 guys??
     
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  15. Perkin Warbeck

    Perkin Warbeck Boxing aficionado Full Member

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    How many pro wins does Usyk have over former champions?

    Fury X 2 (former unified and former linear and Ring champion)
    Dubois X 2
    Joshua X 2 (former unified champion)
    Bellew
    Glowacki
    Huck
    Briedis
    Gassiev

    That's 11 in only 24 pro fights! And mostly in the opponents' home countries, never in his own home country.

    Plus Olympic Gold and numerous international titles, at both heavyweight and light heavyweight.

    WHO ELSE HAS EVER UNIFIED ALL FOUR TITLES IN TWO DIFFERENT WEIGHT DIVISIONS?
    You keep repeating the same thing over and over. Stop spamming my thread!

    We get it, you always discredit and disparage certain fighters. If we had a time machine and sent Usyk back to fight all those old guys, and he beat them all, you'd still say he's not good, for the same reason you always try to prove Calzaghe was no good.
     
    Last edited: Jul 20, 2025
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