Where do you rank Wlad as an ATG?

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  1. RazzAxx

    RazzAxx Active Member Full Member

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    Jack Johnson, Joe Louis, Larry Holmes, George Foreman, Muhammad Ali, Lennox Lewis, Evander Holyfield, Vitali are clearly in a level above him as heavy weight boxers. So depending on how you rate him amongst Tyson's, Bowe's, Liston's etc. he could be in top 10 or outside it.

    No small boxer legend like Dempsey, Marciano, Patterson etc. has any chance even with modern training/nutrition against a man so much bigger than them so they should be excluded in this kind of comparisons. No matter how tough they were in their era, their physique is not enough to challenge any modern top big heavy weight.
     
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  2. Cafe

    Cafe Sitzpinkler Full Member

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    I hope you mean P4P if not, please name your 50 greater heavyweights and let me laugh at whatever you're going to conjure up.
     
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  3. brb

    brb Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Makes sense.
     
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  4. vnyc

    vnyc Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Top 10
     
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  5. Benitom3

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    Heavyweight? Top 5.
    P4p? Top 50 maybe
     
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  6. Benitom3

    Benitom3 Boxing Junkie banned

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    1.Ali
    2.Louis
    3.Foreman
    4.Frazier
    5.Wlad
     
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  7. thesnowman22

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    Top 10. Closer to 10 than 1 tho.
     
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  8. dan4579

    dan4579 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I have looked up the studies on IQ among ethnic groups, but even considering, you and upper-cut are shockingly stupid.
     
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  9. HerolGee

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    definitely will be closer to the top twenty when he retires, although premature to call it now.

    wlad has taken the very long scenic route towards this kind of rating, achieving things in the tiniest increments ever seen in hw history rather than the big leaps of other atgs, so that's why.
     
    HerolGee, Oct 29, 2015
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  10. theanatolian

    theanatolian Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Somewhere between top5-8.
     
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  11. wylan911

    wylan911 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I hope these are not in order. Or even serious. Tommy Morrison? Having him at all is laughable. Ahead of Louis , Ali and Jack Johnson is blasphemy

    Same with Botha, Golota and Quarry
     
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  12. wylan911

    wylan911 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    somewhere 10-15 now. Could go higher as he adds to his legacy.
     
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  13. Azzer85

    Azzer85 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Firstly, on what basis is Vitali ranked above Wladmir? Vitalis resume and legacy is **** poor in comparison.

    Secondly. How would Dempsey be too small in this day and age?

    Jack Dempsey 6'1, 77 inch reach.
    Lamont Brewster 6'2, 77 inch reach.
     
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  14. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    its a big difference on planet K.
     
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  15. wylan911

    wylan911 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Freedom speech?!? And it's freedom of speech that allowed you to put that. I respect that, but you had to realize you were gonna be criticized for that.
     
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