Where do you rate these immensely popular boxers?

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  1. the_bigunit

    the_bigunit Well-Known Member Full Member

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    In the process of my own personal top-100 and I would appreciate your help. Lets start with this.

    I believe if one did no research on the subject, out of ignorance (and ESPN), would think the greatest boxers ever were (in no particular order)...

    - Muhammad Ali
    - Ray Leonard
    - Mike Tyson
    - Floyd Mayweather Jr.
    - Rocky Marciano
    - Manny Pacquiao
    - Oscar de la Hoya

    I know enough that that's not true. So just where do you rate these celebrated figures?

    All the best!

    *This is obviously a huge assumption.
     
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  2. Nightcrawler

    Nightcrawler Boxing Addict Full Member

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    good question and good thread :good it's your list, put whoever you want in there. on mine, these fighters are roughly...

    - Muhammad Ali (10)
    - Ray Leonard (18-23)
    - Mike Tyson (40-45)
    - Floyd Mayweather Jr. (70-75)
    - Rocky Marciano (35-40)
    - Manny Pacquiao (30-35)
    - Oscar de la Hoya (55-60)
     
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  3. dyna

    dyna Boxing Junkie banned

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    Like most normal ratings except the heavyweights get moved up by 20-40 spots.

    Except for Holyfield, he can stay
     
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  4. the_bigunit

    the_bigunit Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Delete.
     
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  5. the_bigunit

    the_bigunit Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I appreciate your response and excellent post! We have Ali in roughly the same place. I have leonard a little higher.

    Pacquiao 40 spots above Mayweather? Interesting. :good
     
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  6. dyna

    dyna Boxing Junkie banned

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    I know might be the wrong thread for it but.

    Can't you make case for Patterson being above almost or any other hw on an ATG list?

    Even for a lightheavy he wasn't really big, and becoming a heavyweight champion is such an amount of overachieving that should be rewarded.
     
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  7. TIGEREDGE

    TIGEREDGE Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Muhammad Ali (9)
    - Ray Leonard (18-23)
    - Mike Tyson (60-65)
    - Floyd Mayweather Jr. (50-55)
    - Rocky Marciano (35-40)
    - Manny Pacquiao (15-30)
    - Oscar de la Hoya (55-60)
     
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  8. Body Head

    Body Head East Side Rape (CEO) Full Member

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    Muhammad Ali - #1 or #2
    Ray Leonard - Top 15
    Mike Tyson - Top 45
    Floyd Mayweather - Top 40
    Rocky Marciano - Top 50
    Manny Pacquaio - Top 30
    Oscar De La Hoya - Top 45
    *Roy Jones - Top 30
    *Bernard Hopkins - Top 45
    *Marvin Hagler - Top 35
    *Thomas Hearns - Top 25

    **** roberto duran
     
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  9. The Spider

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    At first I wondered what the hell you were on about claiming ATG status for Patterson. Then it dawned on me the point you are trying to make regarding his P4P achievement at heavyweight.

    Along similar lines to your claim for Patterson, how about Michael Spinks cleaning out light heavyweight and then winning a heavyweight title?
     
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  10. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    - Muhammad Ali - #1 hw
    - Ray Leonard - #2 ww
    - Mike Tyson - #6 hw
    - Floyd Mayweather Jr. - #1 sfw
    - Rocky Marciano - #4 hw
    - Manny Pacquiao - not a great in any weight division but p4p top 40
    - Oscar de la Hoya - #15 ww
     
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  11. dyna

    dyna Boxing Junkie banned

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    Should also be held at very high regard.
    Though he wasn't a hw as long as Patterson, he did beat the great Larry Holmes as an ex lhw.
     
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  12. Unforgiven

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    Patterson beat an old light-heavyweight champion to become heavyweight champion though. He got a bit lucky there with Marciano's retirement maybe.
     
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  13. anj

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    4. Louis
    5. Greb
    6. Duran
    7. Fitzsimmons
    8. B.Leonard
    9. Charles
    10. Langford
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    12. Moore
    13. Monzon
    14. Pep
    15. Gans
    16. Wilde
    17. Napoles
    18. Chavez
    19. Whitaker
    20. Walker
    21. Tunney
    22. Ross
    23. Hagler
    24. Conn
    25. Canzoneri
    26. Saddler
    27. Spinks
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    - I will most likely put Pac higher after more thought.
    29. Hearns
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    - The more I think, the lower I put him.
    31. Johnson
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    33. Holyfield
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    35. Roy Jones Jr
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    41. Hopkins
    42. Frazier
    43. Holmes
    44. Gomez
    45. Sanchez
    46. McGovern
    47. ?
    48. Ortiz
    49. Demspey
    50. Maybe Burley

    Post-Hopkins, I am very flexible.

    Mayweather WILL be higher if he 1. Beats two more fighters as good as Bradley 2. Beats Austin Trout who comes off a win against Canelo Alvarez. 3. Mayweather will SKYROCKET if he beats a recovered Pacquiao who retains the strength and alertness from Pac-JMM 4, and is fully confident to trade, having been in wars with the likes of Brandon Rios.


    Mike Tyson - somewhere from 80-150
     
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  14. anj

    anj Guest

    Is it me or do I always put threads to sleep when I post these rankings? haha
     
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  15. Hands of Iron

    Hands of Iron #MSE Full Member

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    It's just so irrelevant. Not yours alone, everyone's. But it comprises much of what can really be discussed in regards to fighters long gone. Fun too.
     
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