Where do you rate Vitaly's chin in ATG terms?

Fair enough, she sure is hot as hell whoever she is.:yep

 

Of course, he did. The ref just blew the call.

 

Bull ****. Wrestling technique??? LMFAO. GTF outta here. Corrie doesn't have any strength to be laying on any wrestling moves. He rocked Clitli repeatedly and smashed him to the head and he dropped. Ref was sleeping.

 

You keep saying that. It remains absurd everytime. Just pause the tape at 0:19, 0:14, & 0:09. At each point Clit gets rocked by a Sanders left (0:14 had some nice forearm too due to their proximity) and the accumulation results in Clit hitting the canvas by 0:07.

His right was nothing of a substantive push. He was clearing to throw another left except Clit was already on shaky legs and falling.

Try and rewatch on a quality tape with some objectivity. That right "sweep" was actually an attempt to measure or stabilize and nothing to bring a 6'7 1/2" man down. Clit was HURT and he was losing his balance. Sanders wasn't throwing him down he was trying to quickly free himself for another damaging left hand. Ask yourself why Corrie would want to "shove" Clit down when he was doing considerable damage landing left power shots to his skull?

The only point a Clit nuthugger can reasonably make is the positioning of Clit's left foot. Somewhat similar to what happened to Chagaev in the 2nd round, Sanders had his right foot inside Clit's and Clit had no place to move it and so couldn't adjust to maintain balance. And, so HE WENT DOWN. That sequence covered 12 seconds of Clit taking punches, stumbling/back pedaling, trying to hold, flailing, and resulted in a LEGITIMATE KNOCKDOWN. The ref blew the call.

In the recent fight, Wlad steps on Chag's right foot right has he throws and lands the right hand. Chag can't move his right foot to maintain balance and goes down in a flash knockdown.

 

Lewis did some serious damage to Vitali in the first 6 rounds, to the point where Vitali's cuts were a good inch deep it looked like above the one eye. I feel Lewis' would of stopped/dropped Vitali a couple rounds later, Vitali was clearly in worse shape than Lewis coming into the second half of the fight.

Yes, Sanders did catch Vitali with a huge left hand, but taking one huge punch alone doesn't instantly put you in the ATG top 5 chin rankings either. I seen Brewster take just as big of shots from Wlad in their first fight, went down once, never out. The same could be said for Lewis, he took monster shots from Vitali, Bruno, and Briggs, and he never went down, yet many regard his chin as being below average.

 

Not just the referee...the judges, nor the commentators considered that a KO. Nor any boxing commission considered that a KO, because till this day Vitali's pro record is clear of KOs, whether they'd be fights he won or loss. So that many people sleeping can either mean that, a) a once in zillion rare occasion where so many people fell asleep, or, b) you need to wake up.

 

I agree. I think of some of the people that made fun of Lewis' chin, took the time out this past week and watched some of Lewis' old fights they had on all day on ESPN classic, maybe a few people would change their mind a bit. Not a huge Lewis fan, but he definitely took care of business in the ring and fought everyone significant in the division from 94-03, and only lost twice.

Foreman is bad ass fighter, but I dont think he would have as easy of a time beating Vitali as some people may think. If you remember, him and Lyle went blow for blow with each other, and Foreman tasted the canvas twice, but being the tough hard puncher he is, knocked his man out in the 5th.

 

Agreed, Foreman would make it war, and knowing the type of fighter Vitali is, he would not mind. I think it then comes down to chin, power, and stamina. Vitali in his prime had decent stamina I guess, George had moments where he gassed/blew his load. I think I would favor Vitali by a slight margin I think. The power goes to big george, the original KO ratio champ at heavyweight, his right is heavier than Vitali's IMO. So then it comes down to chin, Vitali fought 2 heavy hitters in his prime, never went down, but was stopped by Lewis. George faced Norten(never really got hit with anything) Frazier(barely got hit with anything) Lyle floored him twice, as well as Ali knocking him out when he gassed out.

I too got it a 50/50, because while Vitali has the better chin and stamina, he never faced the caliber of oppenents Foreman has. I would love to see this fight, it's a fight where both men will get hurt I believe.

 

I would also throw Ibeabuchi in there.

 

Can't really gauge his chin in an ATG sense because he hasn't been hit enough by big punchers and has been too dominant in most of his performances. It is clearly very good though.

 

Rahman was able to take the same Sanders shots and nobody talks about him having a great chin!