firstly id like to see all these top 100 lists!!and following this i could say(no doubt)lets retitle the list to "my top 100 ATG boxers as decided by an amercan boxing fan who denegrates any argument that a european is worthy in such company as my fellow countrymen and pugilists"... is it really debateable that he isnt top 100? a guy who defended his title over 20 times was THE smw champion for 10 years then moved up a weight with no warmups and fought for the LHW title and ring magazine belt on foreign soil and won" ummhhhhhhhhhh a guy who in his mid 30s was schooling the new breed of the worlds best at that weight and a guy who now wants to end it fighting two of the greats of his generation on there soil,yes admittedly there old but so is he. easily top 100
Socrates, He wasn't THE Supermiddleweight champion for 10 years. Really did not become undisputed until Kessler, and with Ottke reigning for just as long with just as many defenses in the same division during the same time and having never been beaten, saying Calzaghe was the best at the weight during Ottke's reing is only speculation. I'd pick him over Ottke for sure, but you can't just call him THE champion during that time span because he wasn't, Ottke had every bit a claim to that title as Calzaghe. Trust me, there are roughly 100 fighters in boxing's long history that were overall at least as impressive.
Of course it is. Joe has at no time been p4p #1, and he isn't fighting in a strong era. He does not have a swathe of ATG fighters on his resume and he hasn't generally fought the best around (not all his fault, but there it is). Frankly, it is impossible to rank him above Lloyd Marshall, who never held any world title. And that is just the beggining. Boxing goes back 120 years. Joe could be scraping in or missing out, both are reasonable.
Do you want the list? If so, to where you honestly will read every name, then yes I would post it. If not, then I won't waste my time typing out 100 names.
At the end of the top 100, if at all. People always cry anti-American bias, but that's a shitty argument. Most knowledgable American boxing fans/historians rank numerous great fighters who weren't from the States highly. Including guys from the U.K.
mate if you want to write it its your time!i would be happy to read it but what would it prove to me? go ahead.
You asked me if I had the list. I have the list, it would prove to you that there are 100 greater fighters, and the likely reason you don't believe so is because you don't know of many of them. I won't post as it is a waste of my time, but there are 100 greater fighters, so you shouldn't question those saying such things.