Where does Chavez rank among the

Pipino Cuevas or Mando Ramos don't Rate?

 

Camacho was IN his prime when Rosario ruined him. & we all know what happened to Rosario at the hands of Chavez.

 

Whitaker was jetlagged as well, he was hours off a plane before he schooled Camacho.

 

Are you Whitaker- nuthuggers finally ready now with your nuthugging?

 

I think the guys who are long enough here on ESB know that I´m a Whitaker-fan, but some of his nuthugging- fans get slowly on my nerves, in every thread they´re coming with him, that´s my "problem"...

 

I read his post, but you guys didn´t need to respond with the typical "Whitaker schooled..."-****, everyone who knows a bit about boxing and/ or isn´t biased against Sweet Pea knows how great he was... (and the story with "GayMacho" Camacho) :thumbsup

 

IMO Chavez was legacywise the best Mexikan ever, only Zarate and Sanchez come close to him...

 

I'm not entirelly sure, but is that Picture Luigi Minchillo? Fighter from the eightie's.

 

Here's a go at my top 10:

Julio Cesar Chavez
Salvador Sanchez
Carlos Zarate
Miguel Canto
Ruben Olivares
Vicente Saldivar
Erik Morales
Marco Antonio Barrera
Ricardo Lopez
Baby Arizmendi

 

Lopez should be much higher, top five, and could also make a strong case for being top three. He ticks so many boxes. Longevity, fought the best the 105lb division had to offer, although the division lacked marquee fights. He was technically as sound as any other fighter on your list. Infact, he was probably technically the best mexican fighter of all time. Textbook. Sanchez may well have been smoother and slicker (not as robotic), thus being slightly more unorthdox.

Lopez retired unbeaten, with the draw against Alvarez being the only blemish on his record. Just to top things off, he moved up and captured the IBF title.

 

I thought he lost the first Alvarez fight by a point and had the second one a draw, but that's not really why I have him ranked where he is. Lopez was on the decline by then anyway.

His resume is his major drawback imo. He only fought a handful of good fighters. He fought none great and none near great and whatsmore none near elite either.

 

Yeah, his quality of opposition does hold him back from others on your list, no question. But he's very underated as an ATG. I think he deserves to be mentioned among the very best fighters of the 90's.

 

No, it´s Guido Trane, an Italian HW, who fought Formean during his comeback, but you´re right, he really looks like the bigger brother of Minchillo... :yep

 

I think both Barrerra and Sanchez would have beaten him, particularly Sanchez. Sal Sanchez was atypical of Mexican fighters and was sometihng relly special.

 

He'd rank as #1, no doubt. Had Sal Sanchez' life/boxing career not been so tragically cut short he would likely have challenged strongly for this honour.

Barrera is a very good fighter but would rank third on this list.