Where does Eleider Alvarez rank p4p

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by IKSAB, Aug 6, 2018.


Page 2 of 2
  1. deyell

    deyell MOLECULE FROM HELL. Full Member

    6,407
    5,543
    Aug 10, 2015
    Nowhere. Bivol, Gvozdyk, Beterbiev all beat him, maybe Badou Jack as well.
     
    deyell, Aug 6, 2018
    deyell, Aug 6, 2018
    #16
    UnleashtheFURY and Odins beard like this.
  2. Odins beard

    Odins beard Fentanyl is one hell of a drug.... Full Member

    20,458
    12,588
    Apr 13, 2014
    He's not top 10 quite yet, but he is skirting the border.
     
    Odins beard, Aug 6, 2018
    Odins beard, Aug 6, 2018
    #17
    IKSAB likes this.
  3. IKSAB

    IKSAB Boxing Addict banned Full Member

    4,411
    1,180
    Nov 29, 2014
    P4p is not the same as h2h. If think those guys beat him fair enough but only Jack has a case to rank above him p4p.
     
    IKSAB, Aug 6, 2018
    IKSAB, Aug 6, 2018
    #18
  4. yeyo monster

    yeyo monster Boxing Addict Full Member

    5,198
    937
    May 4, 2012
    I love spence but i dont think he deserves to be in the top 10 yet! Theres way more fighters with a better resume! Btw im a spence fan
     
    yeyo monster, Aug 6, 2018
    yeyo monster, Aug 6, 2018
    #19
  5. UnleashtheFURY

    UnleashtheFURY D'oh! Full Member

    73,128
    39,607
    Sep 29, 2012
    Yeah I'd favor those 4 over him, and honestly The Pimp has a chance if he had the spine to actually fight him.
     
    UnleashtheFURY, Aug 6, 2018
    UnleashtheFURY, Aug 6, 2018
    #20
  6. Badbot

    Badbot You can just do things. Full Member

    47,830
    36,574
    Apr 17, 2011
    Bute was not completely shot. He just gave hell to DeGale and Jack. Bute still had some fight in him.
     
    Badbot, Aug 6, 2018
    Badbot, Aug 6, 2018
    #21
    Odins beard likes this.
  7. IKSAB

    IKSAB Boxing Addict banned Full Member

    4,411
    1,180
    Nov 29, 2014
    Good post. I don't trust eye test because of people's agendas, and how badly wrong they get it time and time again. Look at Saturday night, nobody here picked Alvarez to beat Kovalev based on eye test, maybe 3 or 4 people and myself. Most didn't even give him a chance. The only hard data we have is fight results, so that represents 80% of how I form my rankings. Personally I don't see how you can rate Bivol above Alvarez p4p, even if you do think he beats him. He just doesn't have the resume yet, and hasn't looked that impressive on eye test either imo. But like you say it's all subjective.
     
    IKSAB, Aug 6, 2018
    IKSAB, Aug 6, 2018
    #22
    KiwiMan likes this.
Page 2 of 2