Where does Evander Holyfield rank as a HW ATG

:good

 

easy top10

 

outside top ten due to consistent PED abuse, if he hadn't abused them then he'd scraype into top ten.

 

Took PEDs
Never dominated the division
But true warrior and ATG , top 25 I think

 

Top tenner easily. It was clear just looking at him. The greatness seaped out of his pours.
Wines over :

Micheal Moorer
Larry Holmes
George Foreman
Mike Tyson
Mike Tyson
Riddy Bowe
Ray Mercer
Buster Douglas
John Ruiz
Hasim Rahman

Excellent remume

 

Great post, Andrew. Glad to hear someone tell it like it is. Yes, Holyfield won some dubious decisions, obviously slammed Rahman with his head to create the most bizarre chunk of evidence of head-butting ever seen (Rahman's second head), and ruled the heavyweight roost only very briefly, during which he fought on the seniors circuit with Foreman and Holmes. Also got a gift against Tank Williams. James Toney beat the hell out of him, in one of my all-time favorite fights.

 

u are trying to sell a fight with a 42 year old holy as proof? woah. small potatoes.

 

higher than tyson

 

Yes, I am. Toney was nearly as old as Holyfield, and was much smaller. It was also, I think, his first fight at heavyweight.

 

In terms of his wins #2 behind Ali.

That being said, the HGH hurts a lot for me. Who knows if it was Evander Holyfield or Even Fields winning those fights.

I would say 5-7 would be fair.

 

Actually Toney was full 6 years younger.

Was there difference between say Ali from 72 and 78?

Or Roy Jones from 2001 and 2007?

Or Sweet Pea 1993 and 1999?

Thats 'only' 6 years

 

Anywhere from 15 - 20

 

Wherever Holyfield ranks, Bowe is above him.

 

Bowe, just outside the top 20.

 

6 years as the man said.

and notwithstanding toney was an outstanding ATG with LHW and CW predigree (evanders old weight divisions).

you step into the ring with a guy in his forties who shares your weight divisions, you aren't facing the full challenge. take a look at wladdie, hes only 38, and hes fcuked.

the one thing about this fight is they were both PED abusers so they cancel each others penalties out.