Where does Froch stand in Best British SMW now?

Discussion in 'British Boxing Forum' started by Jetset78, Nov 27, 2010.


  1. icemax

    icemax Indian Red Full Member

    27,158
    2
    Apr 24, 2008
    Your opening analogy is trite shite and has been proven to be wrong on numerous occasions.

    Hopkins wasn't in his prime, nowhere close...next thing you'll be telling us that Calzaghes win over Jones was against a prime version. We know that Hopkins was past it because Joe fought him, he would never have taken his last two opponents on in their primes...Froch would.
     
  2. icemax

    icemax Indian Red Full Member

    27,158
    2
    Apr 24, 2008
    I didn't therefore not universal dickwad
     
  3. gemmell100

    gemmell100 FREE K KOKE Full Member

    2,428
    0
    Aug 31, 2009
    think calzaghe was the best but froch has beaten the better opposition and he hasn't cherry picked no opponents, froch number 1
     
  4. chatty

    chatty Boxing Addict Full Member

    7,413
    1,067
    Aug 18, 2009
    froch probably wouldnt be top on head to head but on resume id put him top
     
  5. ellaineo

    ellaineo Well-Known Member Full Member

    2,561
    0
    Jan 14, 2010
    Basically this.

    If you go on how you think each fight would pan out you couldn't put Froch no 1 but if you go on resume then you have to put Froch very high and remember he is not done yet.

    Next 3 fights look like being 3

    Johnson
    Ward
    Bute (if he beats Ward) or possibly Pascal at LHW.

    If he wins 2 out of these then his record will probably be the most impressive.
     
  6. PrideOfWales

    PrideOfWales Winston Zedmore Full Member

    11,683
    1
    Apr 20, 2006
    As much as I like Froch, people are kind of forgetting that despite his opposition being of a high standard lately, he arguably lost against Dirrell and was seconds away from losing against Taylor. I fancy that a few people on the list wouldn't have had as much trouble as Froch did those nights. If we're ranking records then that's something else, but if you're ranking the fighters talents then I'd go something like this:

    Calzaghe
    Eubank
    Benn
    Froch
    Collins

    If you're looking at quality of boxers faced:

    Benn
    Froch
    Calzaghe
    Eubank
    Collins
     
  7. Pug1list

    Pug1list Boxing Addict Full Member

    6,488
    4
    Dec 5, 2008
    Calzaghe
    Eubank
    Benn
    Froch
    Collins

    Froch has faced some stiff opposition, but got a gift against Dirrell, lost to Kessler and just about beat Taylor.
     
  8. Beeston Brawler

    Beeston Brawler Comical Ali-egedly Full Member

    46,399
    15
    Jan 9, 2008
    The Dirrell fight was just a stinker, neither of them really did anything.

    At least Froch tried to fight..... Dirrell deserved to get fired by the judges for fighting like a fanny.

    As for only just beating Taylor, a fight is 12x3's after all.....
     
  9. PrideOfWales

    PrideOfWales Winston Zedmore Full Member

    11,683
    1
    Apr 20, 2006
    People have conveniently short memories. Also, Benn has easily faced better quality opposition in my mind. Maybe not in a row like Froch but Barkley in the States, 2 x Eubank, McClellan, Wharton, Collins, Watson **** all over past-prime Kessler, Taylor, Pascal, Abraham and Dirrell.
     
  10. supremo

    supremo Well-Known Member Full Member

    2,765
    14
    Oct 15, 2009
    Collins was irish!
     
  11. rhinocoote

    rhinocoote mexican steamroller Full Member

    1,398
    21
    Mar 4, 2009

    just about beat taylor??-not quite sure that you can count a k/o as just about beat someone?:-(
    also is pretty hard to rate retired/active boxers in an order,so i am not.
    Froch is not done yet,but he's climbing that ladder.:good
     
  12. BritInvasion

    BritInvasion keepin on keepin on Full Member

    763
    28
    May 7, 2008
    Calzaghe, clearly

    Benn
    Eubank

    Froch

    Collins
     
  13. eborted_l

    eborted_l New Full Member

    164
    0
    Nov 10, 2007
    CAN'T YOU ****ING READ DIP****?!?! I DIDN'T SAY HE WAS IN HIS PRIME YOU STUPID MORONIC ****! YOU ****ING KIDDING ME?! I merely said he was recognised as top five pound for pound at the time, which is a fact! An opponent's willingness to fight opposition doesn't say much about where he ranks for skills as well. Peter Buckley I'm sure was willing to fight anyone.

    As for my opening analogy sometimes facts as that can't be taken as verbatim as to proving how good a fighter was but in a lot of cases it can. You are a dick. Froch has dominated Abraham and won while way behind on the cards to Taylor in decline. They are good wins none the less but not enough for him to be crowned best British super middleweight of all time.

    To close you are a twat. Learn how to read and shut the **** up.
     
  14. janitor

    janitor VIP Member

    71,996
    28,006
    Feb 15, 2006
    At the moment, I think we have to credit Calzaghe with the No1 slot because he rounded up all the belts, and was the only person ever to unify the division.

    It is not impossible that Froch could overtake him however!
     
  15. Smazz20

    Smazz20 Boxing Addict Full Member

    4,856
    1
    Dec 19, 2006
    Calzaghe

    Benn

    Eubank/Froch

    Collins