Where does Gene Tunney Rank as a HW ATG

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  1. andrewa1

    andrewa1 Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    One of only 3 HW champs to beat every opponent they ever faced. Victor in two of the most famous bouts of all time. Twice beat ATG Dempsey. But, he wasn't a long time HW champ, most of his work was at lower weights, and its particularly hard to imagine him having much success at HW today.

    I'd put him in the middle teens, 14 or 15, due to his achievement and contributions to the sport. Where do you rank him?
     
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  2. latineg

    latineg user of dude wipes Full Member

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    that is a very difficult question,,,

    I don't have him in a top 30 but that's just me as I a biased towards the bigger more recent dudes,,,,
     
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  3. The Long Count

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    Astounding overall body of work but limited at heavyweight. Actually left the sport as he was peaking. Had the tools to be an ATG. Smart, tough, durable, great movement and an underrated punch. At heavyweight he would be tough against anyone until the division got really big. I would say around 15 is fair. Argumebts could be made for higher or lower but should be inside top 20 still today for sure
     
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  4. The Mighty One

    The Mighty One Well-Known Member Full Member

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    We can't categorize him as a heavyweight by today's standards.....But as a light heavy and cruiser weight he would certainly be top 5.
     
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  5. andrewa1

    andrewa1 Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Bump. Would really like to get over 10 votes on each poll so I have enough to make a fair characterization of the polled results at the end.
     
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  6. HerolGee

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    didn't do enough to get in top 15 for LHW, and not an ATG HW anyway.

    However he is one of my personal favourites, a true fairy tale story.
     
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  7. jauseptt

    jauseptt Active Member Full Member

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    I would have loved to see tunney-louis fight, good thing for louis they didnt
     
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  8. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    Wait...

    Are you suggesting he isn't an ATG?
     
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  9. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    :lol:

    Seriously?
     
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  10. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    Huh?
     
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  11. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    I, too, am curious if that was a mistype, or if he really thinks Tunney is outside of the top 15 LHWs.

    :smoke
     
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  12. FrankieinTexas

    FrankieinTexas the Bronx to Texas Full Member

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    Maybe in the 50-75 range. James "Bonecrusher" Smith would have toyed with him.

    At LHW he's in top 50. Bobby Czyz plays with him for 8 rounds then Bolivianates him.
     
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  13. andrewa1

    andrewa1 Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Again, this isn't H2H, its overall ranking, which can include legacy, resume, in era accomplishments. I use H2H as a tiebreaker or slightly more than a tiebreaker.
     
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  14. FrankieinTexas

    FrankieinTexas the Bronx to Texas Full Member

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    Legacy......uber rascist.
    Resume...defeated by blown up MW.
    Accomplishment....gift win over old champ.
     
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  15. The Long Count

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    P4p and at light heavyweight yes. HW depends on your Criteria of ATG. Sorry for not being clear.
     
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