Where does Mayweather Rank Among the ATGs, in a H2H P4P Sense?

Obviously this has been done before, obviously this is gonna blow up in my face and I get called a Mayweather fanboy or hater or whatever, but **** it. Hey-ho!

Where does Mayweather rank among the ATGs, in a H2H P4P sense?

Weird question I know, but in terms of ability (not achievements) at his absolute best, he's up with the absolute peak of the sport. Despite the gimmicks of his '50-0' fanboys and TBE marketing, he was genuinely a truly special fighter at 130/135. So, where does he rank?

I will say, this is sorta inspired by a conversation I had in a deleted thread this morning. I'll make a list myself, but to sample what you lot think I'll wait first.

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Wherever you feel he was best, compared to everyone in history, on a pound for pound scale. If that makes sense.

Basically, base it on ability at his best, then decide you think was better from any weight class.

My pick is Duran, I've wrote extensively why.
http://boxeomundial.com/why-roberto-duran-is-the-best-fighter-ever/

 

Oof, I have him 22.

But I basically agree with your assessment. I'd pick few guys over him, and even then, it's style reasons.

 

Who did you have winning?

I genuinely think Mayweather went undefeated his whole career, and didn't need judges for anything.

 

For me, the top 4 are set in stone. Duran, Robinson, Charles and Pep are my picks for the four best fighters ever, in terms of ability and what they could do in the ring. It's after where it becomes hard, and I think this is where you could put Mayweather at his highest. Personally, I'd put Harada, Jofre, Moore and Napoles above him. Sweet Pea, Gomez, Canto, Ali and Leonard are all up there with him. I can see him above or below those.

At 130, I'd only favour Saddler over him. Chávez was too green at this point, he peaked as he got higher.

At 135, I'd pick Durán, Armstrong, Chávez and Whitaker over him.

At 140, I pick Chávez and Napoles, Pryor was bad for him, but I just don't think he was good enough. Argüello couldn't miss with that right hand.

Some 50/50s would be Chavez at SFW, Williams and Jack at LW, Cervantes and Benítez at 140.

So in total, below 147 I have 6 men beating him, 5 50/50s, and can see him slotted anywhere below 5, but would personally have him in the 10-15 range on a whim. Hardly poor.

I do agree with the general opinions on Floyd. Top 3 defence ever, amazing feet, brain and jab along with a tough chin and workman like stamina. He also has some freakish reach, and was very athletic. I talked to @Pimp C a couple months back and he made a really good point about how Mayweather would have a hard time with elite boxers, who were better athletes, since he wouldn't be the quicker guy. I agreed with him, hence why I think Napoles and Whitaker beat him.