Where does Miranda rank at 168lbs?

Outside of the top 10.

 

I like Edison, stop doing him the disservice of overrating him at every turn.

Porras and Banks are not a ticket to the top ten.

 

Based on what he's done? Outside of the top 15
Based on his ability? Top 15

 

I personally don't see him defeating many in the top 10. He nailed Porras with endless amounts of flush right hands and the fight was stopped on accumulation, not a real KO.

The Banks KO happens(a guy who was stunned by Paul Smith mind you) and suddenly he can produce the same thing on BIG SMW's? No, not at all.

I wouldn't even make him the favourite against Robert Stieglitz.

 

How about Jean Pascal?

 

Sure thing mate -

Mikkel Kessler
Lucien Bute
Anthony Mundine
Carl Froch
Denis Inkin
Librado Andrade
Vitali Tyspko
Juergen Braehmer
Sakio Bika
Karoly Balzay

Then, here's a few who I personally pick but don't make a definite favourite -

Jeff Lacy
Robert Stieglitz
Alejandro Berrio
Yusaf Mack

 

Nah, Pascal gets KTFO. Stieglitz actually has boxing skills and Miranda doesn't crack nearly as hard as Berrio does, so I pick Stieglitz in a toss up.

Miranda losing the 1st round to Banks and having issue with Porras is all you need to know about his standing at SMW.

And I KNOW this ****ing division like the back of my hand, it's one of the deepest in boxing and is LIGHT YEARS ahead of the MW division Miranda came out of, non-european fans just don't know how deep this mother ****er is.

Even an average SMW like Braehmer on his best night would be enough to KTFO Kelly Pavlik and outbox Abraham.

 

Joe Calzaghe
Mikkel Kessler
Anthony Mundine
Lucian Bute
Carl Froch
Dennis Inkin
Librado Andrade
Jurgen Braehmer
Vitali Tsypko
Jermain Taylor

 

I was picking Pascal by decision before his last fight. But immediately after, I changed by mind. Miranda would eventually find his chin and crack it.

 

I didn't even mention Supernatural Joe, because putting Miranda's name in a match up discussion with Joe is an insult to a soon to be ATG.:yep :good

And I'm serious Brooklyn, all of those guys I listed would smash him, most by stoppage. Imagine Mundine vs. Miranda, who had trouble with Porras and lost arguably two rounds to Banks before the KO, Miranda would get molested.:yep

Most here would take Miranda over Mundine, showing that they know nothing about the division. Mundine is fighting nobody now, but he was thrown in with the sharks really early and overall has fought fabulous competition and has some good wins himself, Miranda can't even compare.

 

I will admit that I'm a fan of Edison, but he would have no answer for Mundine's movement and handspeed. He's far too crude.

Andrade-Miranda would be fun while it lasted, but Andrade's physical strength, chin, and endless stamina would see him through to a mid round stoppage.

You may not agree with this, but I'd pick Jermain Taylor over him too.