Where does Miranda rank at 168lbs?

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  1. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    ...and then there was the Porras fight...Porras was awful and he gave Miranda a close run...

    Well, at least Miranda KOd Banks with one punch, eh!? What further proof is needed that Kessler is his *****?
     
  2. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    the ring does not have Miranda in their top10 but i have him at around 10
     
  3. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    I think he is on the cusp of the Top 10. Hard to be sure though, and I admit I give him the benefit of the doubt...for all I know...Berrio could beat him, Stieglitz too, Allan Green too...etc...and these are not in my top 10.
     
  4. Pantera2000

    Pantera2000 9 lives Full Member

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    The ring had him at #10 until Taylor moved up and took the spot. Before Miranda, Pascal held the #10 position. But the ring also has Allan Green, Jeff Lacy and Sakio Bika ranked top 10. I can see the others deserving to be there above Edison, but no way these 3...
     
  5. Pantera2000

    Pantera2000 9 lives Full Member

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    Let's not forget that Porras KO'd former champ Berrios.
    Miranda also stopped Porras earlier than anyone, including Kessler, Froch and Braehmer.
     
  6. sean

    sean pale peice of pig`s ear Full Member

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    i am on the first page and have 4 pages to go but this sums up miranda`s position perfectly.
     
  7. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    Yeah...that is why he is in my top 10...but his comments about Kessler are completely out of order; he turned himself into a laughing stock...a joke...

    ...Look at Bute, for example...clearly a top fighter in the division...he says about Kessler: I have still a long way to go to give Kessler a good close fight; a lot to learn, much to improve on...THIS is what Miranda should be saying...not calling Kessler names when the only thing he proved is that he is about as good as Bika - who also puts up a good fight but fails whenever he steps up. Look at the way Bika talks about Kessler, Calzaghe...etc...
     
  8. this bloke

    this bloke Well-Known Member Full Member

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    id have miranda top 15 but not top 10
    and the top echelon in the division would all beat him convincingly but i guess the way he fights he always has a punchers chance even though i think his power is overrated a bit
     
  9. Pantera2000

    Pantera2000 9 lives Full Member

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    Bute hasnt faced anyone in the same caliber as Miranda. He should say these things. Miranda went to war with two champions, arguably beating one fair and sqaure. He is confident and WANTS the best fights now. Bute should be embarrassed for who he is fighting. He is a champion now so start acting like one. Pick the best that will fight you and make it happen.
     
  10. 2ironmt

    2ironmt Boxing Addict Full Member

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    obviously this discussion about ranking Miranda at 168 relates to Miranda calling out Kessler about turning down hbo/showtime fight. it appears that many kessler (and calzaghe) fans are going to great lenghts to downgrade miranda's relevance at 168 so that kessler doesn't look bad turning down good money to fight him. whereever miranda's ranked (and it can't be too far down), he has interest and excitement now in the division and apparently major networks willing to promote his fight, that's all that should matter to 'prizefighters.' kessler should take the fight unless he's got a line on a title fight. btw, has he responded yet?
     
  11. LiamE

    LiamE Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think we should reserve judgement on that till we see who Kessler actually gets lined up with.
     
  12. brooklyn1550

    brooklyn1550 Roberto Duran Full Member

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    :huh I like him, but not that much.

    He's had a difficult upbringing, brings 100 percent every time out, and hits hard. Is he limited? Yes. He's extremely limited to be honest with you, but he's a fun guy to watch.
     
  13. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    I admire him for what he's achieved given his start in life and I like the fact he'll fight anyone, but I strongly dislike the way he tries to put superior fighters and better men than him down to make himself look better - childish and laughable.
     
  14. joe the great

    joe the great Boxing Addict Full Member

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  15. brooklyn1550

    brooklyn1550 Roberto Duran Full Member

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    He's just a primative/tough guy who likes to talk. I don't take it seriously.