Where does power come from?

That's because they aren't. My evidence is from actual experience in a gym. Yours is from boxingforum24.

 

Shocking. We all have a difference of an opinion on here, but that's like someone on the wind up ! non boxing fans know this

 

There have been tons of highly skilled fighters who were more than capable of getting their fists on their opponents' chins, but who've struggled to do so with enough force to hurt them. It becomes clear whether most fighters have the ability to be knockout artists pretty early in their careers, so it would make sense that many of those who know that they don't have the potential to become ko artists would find other ways to beat their opponents.

 

No, not at all. Because all along their focus when they hit the bags and sparred has been different than that of a Bailey or Matthysse.
I know a guy that was in camp sparring with Malinaggi and he said that Paulie only jabs, even on the speed bag, circle and jab. Bad hands or commitment to a cause?

 

That's false. Not a lot of fighters can land flush on their opponents chin with a perfect punch.

 

Hitting hard and power are two seperate things really.

All in all how does one hit HARDER?

A better punch is through Technique/ Accuracy/speed as well as timing in some cases and how much one can actually absorb without breaking their hand.

Power is generated really by the core mostly not the legs as most think. Whats more important than bone thickness( its really not important its the actual weight that is for most ppl ) is ligament and tendon strength bc thats what is absorbing the shock coming back at you when you hit something hard with weight to it or mass.

A hook puncher has some advantages bc the puncher is using the lats and overall shoulder more than the straight punch which has far less torque and weight of the body behind it.


Power comes from the forearm and extends to the wrist and hands,when followed by the above mentioned you get the superior punch that will hit harder.

Being heavy handed( Foreman) when combined with Speed would delivery maximum power and hard punching.Foreman weighed alot thus his punching power was extremely thudding to a opponent but without technique and speed it is not the ultimate puncher.

Genetics play important role too,the myth one cannot train to be harder hitting is foolish though. Genetically natural punchers( Tyson) combined with mass/speed/technique and accuracy will have maximum impact even if he weighs less..mass x speed and at 5'10 215/220 at his peak you saw the results.

All in all power is everything at once ...form/combined muscles used and ones OWN ability to use the above mentioned determines power, using the core /twisting /digging into the punch using lats shoulder and arm will drive the punch that much harder while digging your legs as the base into the ground or flat surface!.

It also helps to be a power puncher yourself to know what your talking about,right dago? lol

I used Foreman and Tyson two very hard punchers bc they are two extremes of different power punchers.

 

What is that supposed to even mean? All pro fighters train in a gym.

Yes, they will tell me they weren't concerned with punching power. Developing punching power wasn't the number one thing on their list.

 

I mean that when they go to the gym to train, they aren't training with the primary goal in mind to increase punching power. It comes through perfecting technique. If a fighter is working a combination on the bag, the goal isn't to increase punching power. The goal is to perfect that combination. Increased punching power is a byproduct.

 

There is no doubt that power can be found through many different techniques and ways to punch. And genetics does have something to do with it. Everyone has a different body make-up and boxers are no different.. You have to experiment with power and what works for you.. Look at the Liston jab for example. What is "technically" sound? Probably not. But did it generate a huge amount of power. Yes. It worked for Liston given his particular body make-up..

 

Who said anything about a perfect punch? What are you even arguing against?

 

In Malignaggi's case, it was probably the bad hands. But just to be clear, is it your view that if guys like Malignaggi and Collazo had been brought along differently, they ultimately would have been able to hit as hard as a Bailey or Matthysse?

 

Then all we have is a minor confusion.

Yes, I agree that a fighter would at least be somewhat concerned about his opponent's power or at least what they can do with the power they have. Tyson's opposition for example. But again, for most fighters it probably isn't the number one thing on the list.

 

That's the ultimate goal in a fight. To land a perfect punch flush on the opponents chin. If a fighter doesn't have the ability to do that then they need to train to do that.

 

No, the ultimate goal is to win the fight. But you're right--it's very hard to land the perfect punch in a fight against a live body. But the guys who get heralded for their power are the ones who can seriously hurt opponents with even punches that don't land on the perfect spot. That's a huge advantage they have over punchers with lesser power.

 

Potentially, because I'm pretty certain that, if they wanted to, they could learn and master the mechanics of punching. For all I know Collazo can punch hard as hell- he certainly tagged Victor Ortiz, wasn't it?- but chooses to fight another way.