Where does power come from?

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  1. Brixton Bomber

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    Hahahahaha!
     
  2. Brixton Bomber

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    So anyone who isn't a boxer can't punch hard? Wow.
     
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  3. Mr.DagoWop

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    There is no guarantee that they will get that kind of power. Also, power isn't something that changes overnight. It's something that takes years to increase significantly.
     
  4. Brixton Bomber

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    Or reading a Jack Dempsey book.
     
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  5. reznick

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    I said superhuman punching ability. Like Tyson, Louis, Golovkin level.
    Have you ever seen a non boxer who has "god gifted" punching power?
     
  6. reznick

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    Would you know?
     
  7. Brixton Bomber

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    I have seen some very hard hitters who aren't pro fighters but very well could be.

    I'm talking teenagers who could lay out grown men with one shot.

    What's to say that an NFL player couldn't have more one punch power than a boxer?

    Your argument seems to be that only boxers can punch really hard. Another daft argument.

    Next, you'll be telling me that chewing steak strengthens the jaw, therefore preventing you from being KO'ed!
     
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  8. Brixton Bomber

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    Because JD said punching thin air increases power, it's gospel?

    Just another old wives tales from yesteryear.
     
  9. Brixton Bomber

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    Same with Joshua. Now both men are regarded as the hardest hitters going. And guess what? There's TONS of men out there doing that like they was.
     
  10. reznick

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    So if a "god gifted" puncher never throws a punch in his life, does he still have god gifted power?
    You believe that? I don't.
     
  11. reznick

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    Yeah but what would you, personally, know?
    Is this all just guesswork by making extreme claims bred from pure speculation?

    I've been told by multiple world class trainers "You hit like a ****ing mule."
    And I have to say, everything you said about power in this thread has been completely false, based on my experience.
     
  12. reznick

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    If so, he was probably practicing throwing punches before KO'ing people on the street.
     
  13. Brixton Bomber

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    He'd never know.

    But don't tell me that there aren't humongous punchers out there who aren't boxers. The earth is littered with them.

    I told you about the AJ example earlier. Walks into the gym, never having boxed in his life, starts breaking the pads. Do you know how hard that is to do? It's rare that you hear of such a thing. Had he just called it a day there, you'd still be of the opinion that only boxers are punchers.
     
  14. Brixton Bomber

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    Give it up, mate. You are clutching at straws now.
     
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  15. reznick

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    Here is Dempsey on the topic:

    Louis retired as undefeated heavyweight champion in 1949. And I'll bet that, as he retired, Joe considered himself a natural-born puncher. I know that's probably true because I had the same mistaken idea about myself during my career and for a time after I hung up my gloves,

    If you're a punching champion it's natural for you to get the wrong appreciation of yourself. Hundreds of admirers pat you on the back and tell you what a "natural-born" fighter you are. And when you're swept along toward seventh heaven by the roar of the crowd in your magnificent moments of triumph, it's easy to forget the painstaking labor with which you and your instructors and trainers and sparring partners fashioned each step in your stairway to the throne. It's easy to forget the disappointments and despair that, at times, made the uncompleted stairway seem like "Heartbreak Hill." Ah yes, when you're on the throne, it's easy to regard yourself as one who was born to the royalty of the ring.

    In your heyday as champion, you can't "see the forest for the trees." As an historian might express it, you're too close to your career to get the proper perspective of highlights and background. It was only after I had retired and had begun trying to teach others how to fight that I investigated the steps in my stairway-analyzed my own technique. And that was a tough job.

    You see: by the time a fellow becomes a successful professional fighter, nearly all his moves are so instinctive, through long practice, that it's difficult for him to sort out the details of each move. Accordingly, it's nearly impossible-at first-for him to explain his moves to a beginner. He can say to the beginner, "You throw a straight right like this." Then he can shoot a straight right at a punching bag. But the beginner will have no more conception of how to punch with the right than he had before.