Where does Roy Jones Jr rank?

Roy never met the best fighters of his era.

 

Yep Toney and Hopkins were **** poor......

 

Which one of Roy`s opponents would have tested an any ATG`s at middle or light heavy? I didn`t include super middle because I don`t know which fighters who have fought at super middle are considered ATG`s I know Ward wouldn`t have been tested by any of Roy`s opponents, Hopkins weren`t at his best level and Toney was awful v Roy, Toney wouldn`t have cut the ring off on Ward because he couldn`t cut the ring off on Roy.

 

They were **** poor v Roy. B-Hop cut the distance better than Toney which created a really dissappointing, boring fight.

 

Hop and Toney were GREAT wins for RJJ , Mark …. but after Toney , I'm right there with you man … I've fought this battle so many times before, that I'm going to pull up a chair and enjoy .. good luck to you mate !!

 

They were **** poor because he made them look that way.

 

Collins and DM were probably the ones most missing from his resume in terms of standing. I'd liked to see Roy fight them , but I don't think he was very afraid of losing against them. DM says himself that he wouldn't leave Germany, and Roy felt that he was too big to be the one traveling, at least for the money offered. Too bad, but something we see quite often. As for Collins, I suppose that was more a question of timing. Roy moved up to LHW around the time Steve rematched Benn, and Collins only had two more fights.

But stylistically, I think they'd be pretty easy nights for Roy. And I doubt that anyone would be creaming their pants today if he had indeed beaten them.

McClellan and Benn looked more interesting from a stylistic standpoint. I feel Roy would have more reason to fear them, but can't say I've ever heard they were particularly interested in facing him. There could well be more to this than I know, but from what I do know I don't have much reason to believe Jones avoided anyone. It seems more to have been a case that the fighters of that era was quite comfortable having only one title and wasn't too interested in looking for unifications.

 

Roy arguably beat the two best fighters (other than himself) of his era. These allegations of Roy ducking everybody have gotten out of hand. Had Benn or Eubank stepped up to fight Roy in his prime at 168, they would likely have been dominated.

 

Floyd to me is not top 10. and neither is Roy. Neither guy had great fights or tried to fight the best and prove something like Hagler did.

 

I recall a fight was proposed between an aging Hearns and Roy Jones at 175 pounds. Hearns was 37 I think and it never came off, I'd have like to have seen that.

 

You'd certainly have to favor Roy over Benn at 168 pounds, it could have been a thrill ride though......

 

I don't know if I wanted to see that. Hearns was a bit past his prime then. It would have been interesting but Hearns was beyond this best then.

 

I'd have him inside my top twenty...Maybe pushing up towards the lower ends of a top fifteen. I haven't tried to compile a proper list for a while now, because after the top ten things get really hazy and there are probably twenty-five guys who you could argue deserve to make the 11-20 bracket, depending on my mood or criteria. But off the top of my head I couldn't leave the guy out of a twenty, and if someone had him (just) breaching their top ten, I wouldn't necessarily try to shout them out of town, even if it's a little more generous than I'd be.

In terms of fighters who have peaked in my lifetime (1988 onwards), he's in the top three along with Floyd and Pernell, in my opinion. I'd might have had him inside a top ten if he'd retired after beating Ruiz or Tarver first time out. His sudden fall from grace meant that too many people went way over the top in terms of subsequently running him down, but slowly the curve has corrected itself and he seems to be rated more fairly these days.

Phenomenal level of dominance from 1993 to 2003. Almost an entire decade as a generally acclaimed pound for pound champion or at least contender (he was surely never lower than, say, number two or three in anyone's list from 1994 onwards, and was number one for good periods of that stretch) and made some very good fighters look like amateurs.

"And they got the nerve to say I don't fight nobody - I just make 'em look like nobody!" Never a truer word rapped.

 

Agreed. Hagler was hungry and cleaned out the division twice … It took him forever to get his just due .. I think when Kennedy threw his weight around and threatened an investigation, things changed

 

Hagler's biggest fights were against guys moving up. If he wanted to test himself he would have taken on Spinks. But that fight was never on the cards as far as I know.