Where does Roy Jones rank?

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  1. kingfisher3

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  2. PowerPuncher

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    Dear mother of god you're an utter re****
     
  3. Seamus

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    Did I say anything regarding Floyd's legacy other than to suggest it is more based on his first 42 fights than the last few that occurred past the age of 35? What in God's name are you responding to with this dreck sprinkled with pre****scent use of emoticons?

    Again, name me the long list of fighters whose legacy is based upon their performances after the age of 35… especially those who were a consensus dominant performer for the decade preceding? Stick to those simple criteria and name the fighters who qualify.
     
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    Floyd won a bronze you utter spastic.
     
  6. impacted

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    Bumping this for the ridiculous, random assertions that Jones is outside the top 40 or even top 50 of all time.

    From '93 when he cruised past Hopkins until 2003 when he humiliated John Ruiz, Jones was phenomenal. I mean freakishly good. Several times I had to watch a slow motion replay of his fight finishing shots to see what he'd hit the other guy with.

    Be honest with yourselves and name another fighter between 154 and 168 in the entire history of the sport who could out box Toney and Hopkins, bang out Tate and Malinga, crack Hill and Griffin with a single shot apiece, and outclass Ruiz at heavyweight. Exactly, there isn't one.

    Jones is top 15 all-time at the absolute worst.
     
  7. Foxy 01

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    Firstly you are making far too big a deal out of the nonentities he fought at 154, AND the 2 undefeated guys he fought at 168. Toney was weight drained, and Brannon was nothing more than ordinary, with only 16 fights to his credit.

    Secondly let us get the Ruiz fight in perspective. All Jones did was bulk up a few more pounds than his usual " in ring weight " and get on his toes, against a guy that was so slow and ponderous he made both the K2 brothers, and Lennox Lewis look positively agile. He'd already been beaten 4 times, including KTFO by Tua in a round, but credit where it is due Jones was in the right place at the right time.

    Possibly top 25 - 30, but nowhere near top ten.
     
  8. The Mongoose

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  9. The Mongoose

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    I can name several:

    Charles, Bivins, Moore, Greb, Langford..etc.

    Prove me wrong. :good
     
  10. cuchulain

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    Log off, son.

    And never post again.

    At least not on boxing.:D
     
  11. Mendoza

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    Jones lost his aura of invincibility once he was hit flush on the chin. Had this happened sooner, he would not have had the run he had.

    In his prime Jones had spellbinding speed and accuracy. Few could win rounds on him, and he had good power. This is enough for me to give him a top 7-12 spot at middle or light heavy

    There are two major knocks on Roy Jones.

    1 ) He was he was very risk adverse in picking his fights. He didn't fight DM, Ottke, Nun, J Jackson, Eubank, Collins or Ben. Lots of guys

    2 ) Jones was busted for steroids testing 5x the legal testosterone limit in the Hall fight.

    Age 35 these days is more like age 33 decades ago
     
  12. PowerPuncher

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    Put Moore on 20x speed, he might look as quick as Jones
     
  13. Foxy 01

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    Are you sure it is him that needs to log off? It might be better if you look at yourself in that respect. By 37 - 38 Jones had already been KTFO by both Tarver, and Johnson, who were both the same age as him.

    Whereas Froch's 2 defeats it might well be claimed were to better opposition than either of them, as well as being younger than Froch. Indeed Froch has beaten Glenn, and has never been KO'd.

    So yes at the respective ages of 38, Froch is far better than Jones was 8 years ago.
     
  14. impacted

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    I love Harry Greb, but a one shot KO artist over three weights? Whatever you say.
     
  15. The Mongoose

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    We only have Moore on quality film in his mid and late 30s...compare Moore/Johnson, Moore/Maxim to Jones/Calzage and Jones/Hopkins II. Yeah...Jones don't look so quick either.