Where Does Today's Loaded Welterweight Divisions Rank With The ATG Divisions?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by walk with me, Jan 19, 2009.


  1. walk with me

    walk with me Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    so your trying to tell me miguel cotto floyd mayweather jr paul williams & margarito would be out classed BY THAT MUCH!

    in era's in the past?

    maybe there is a handful of fighters but are those older generation fighters THAT MUCH BETTER?!

    I'm not trying to discredit you guys I just have a hard time believing that
     
  2. san rafael

    san rafael 0.00% lemming Full Member

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    I think alot more of these guys at the top of the division are B+ fighters on a true scale instead of anything in the A range. It's unquestionably a deep division because of all the 'good' fighters there, but I don't see it as being ocean deep the way that some people seem to.
     
  3. Smokin'

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    That division was great. Boxing needs it one of those.
     
  4. Smokin'

    Smokin' Member Full Member

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    Exactly. That's the way I look at this division. There are without a doubt, good fighters but really none are truly an A grade when you look at past eras. The division was a lot more entertaining when Floyd and Paul were still full time in the division. Imagine this division 10 months ago with everybody including Floyd and Paul, then add Pac and Hatton. Now that would be very entertaining.
     
  5. smitty_son408

    smitty_son408 J ust E njoy T his S hit Full Member

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    Not very high, behind the 70's 60's & 40's for sure
     
  6. WhataRock

    WhataRock Loyal Member Full Member

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    Floyd would do alright but he isnt a welter and just isnt that convincing there.

    The others would get destroyed by a lot of the best fighters of the eras mentioned..And I gotta say even your man Big Paul.
     
  7. EL-MATADOR

    EL-MATADOR Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I think the WW division from 10-15 years ago was better. Tito, DLH, Whitaker, Quartey fought in a better division than the one today.
     
  8. Grinder

    Grinder Dude, don't call me Dude Full Member

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    It is not that strong. There are a lot of good evenly matched fighters.

    Consider SR Robinson, SR Leonard, Hearns, Oscar (prime not **** ant), Tito, SSM (prime)

    How would the modern WW division fare against these guys?

    Antonio Margarito: loses UD to every fighter above, might get KTFO by Tito.
    Miguel Cotto: gets KTFO by all
    Paul Williams: his size probably gives him a stylistic advantage over some of the fighters. I think he loses more than he wins.
    Andre Berto: definitely loses to all
    Shane Mosley: today's SSM loses to his prime and the rest by UD
    Joshua Clottey: loses UD to all
    Louis Collazo: causes stylistic problems but definitely loses UD, given the fact he can't get a decision in his favour.
    Floyd Mayweather JR: Gets KTFO by most of these guys. This guy is a small WW who has handpicked his opponents at WW. The list above will manhandle him.

    So, although it is a decent group as a whole, its individual parts are not ATGs, except for SSM and PW (his career is still young). Note PBF is an ATG at lower weights.
     
  9. Lance_Uppercut

    Lance_Uppercut ESKIMO Full Member

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    He can get fights @ 147, he just can't get the fight he wants.
     
  10. walk with me

    walk with me Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    true

    the fights he wants/deserves
     
  11. sweet_scientist

    sweet_scientist Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Even a relatively bad era, like the late 80's, with the likes of Simon Brown, Marlon Starling, Buddy McGirt, Maurice Blocker, Lloyd Honeyghan and Mark Breland is superior to the current era.
     
  12. dits

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    In recent times, that brief time when Barrera, Morales, Pacquiao and Marquez were at superfeatherweight tops todays welterweights.