Where does Usyk rank P4P now after the Joshua victory?

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  1. BubblesUK

    BubblesUK Doesn't buy hypejobs Full Member

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    Definitely.

    Cruiser only exists because heavies got bigger and arguably Bridger is a necessary addition at this point as well...
    To bypass that emerging division and beat a well established champion who's 20lbs heavier and 4" reach longer - that's a special nights work.
     
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  2. Sooncreate3

    Sooncreate3 Member Full Member

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    Would you describe Usyk as Holyfield 2.0 lol?
     
  3. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    I couldn't agree more.
     
  4. BirdieNumNum

    BirdieNumNum New Member banned Full Member

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    I like Alvarez and he's the clear number 2. But there's no way in a million years you can put him ahead of Usyk at this point unless you are a Usyk hater. I could list all the reasons but it'd be a very long list. Usyk is the CLEAR p4p number 1.
     
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  5. Sooncreate3

    Sooncreate3 Member Full Member

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    No, I do not hate Usyk and he is definitely one of my favorite boxers but the reason why Alvarez edges for me is that Alvarez defeat multiple ranked Top 3 fighters in multiple divisions like junior middle, middle, and super middle. Yes, he lost to GGG but you can argue that he had at least 1 victory over GGG but that's still debatable. Usyk was one of the greatest cruiserweights of all time after Holyfield and beat one of the finest heavyweights today in Joshua. Like I mentioned earlier, it was really tough deciding who would be the CLEAR CUT P4P King as Usyk and Alvarez are both really accomplished fighters.

    What I can say to you is that the P4P list is not objective. It's subjective and everyone is entitled to their own opinion and should at least be respected for it.
     
  6. Bujia

    Bujia Well-Known Member Full Member

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    It's between him and Canelo. He's entering Holyfield territory.
     
  7. ArseBandit

    ArseBandit Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I have him at 1 now with Canelo a close second.
     
  8. JDub

    JDub Active Member Full Member

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    Great amateur background
    Olympic champ
    CW undisputed Champ
    4 belt HW Champ

    He’s number 1 for sure.
     
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  9. gdm

    gdm Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    #1. He cleaned cruiserweight division and did it on the road, then he won HW title on the road too
     
  10. gdm

    gdm Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Canelo is a cheat he was caught juicing , he lost twice to GGG and a few more fights and got decision wins just because of corrupt judges.
     
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  11. 88Chris05

    88Chris05 Active Member Full Member

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    I think he's #1 now. Usually I'm a little reluctant to rate Heavyweights that high, but for this converted Heavy I think we can make an exception! This is a legitimately historic-level win. Canelo, as pound for pounders go, is bang average and he's been a privileged fighter his whole career. Undeserved decisions, his camp always dictating terms, opponents coming to his backyard.

    Usyk has beaten everyone legitimately and without controversy, doing it as the away fighter in his opponent's back yard almost every time, and he's looked classy in doing so. There are some very good talents vying for that top spot, but none of them have proven anywhere near as much as he has in the past few years.

    He's the man right now, for me.
     
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  12. gollumsluvslave

    gollumsluvslave Boxing Addict Full Member

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    #1

    After this performance, someone else will have to do something extra special to oust him IMO; like Canelo would need to go up and beat Beterbiev after he walks through Plant.
     
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  13. Liquorice

    Liquorice Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    What Usyk has done in so few fights is unique… He did it all on the road too.. it is the stuff of pound for pound .. he's number one. Mexican beef is ridiculously enhanced & lost twice to GGG & was schooled by a WW. Crawford is a weight bully with a **** resume.
     
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  14. Hanz Cholo

    Hanz Cholo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Instant top spot
    Canelo would have to beat plant in spectacular fashion & then challenge Usyk himself in order to contest.
     
  15. jaytxxl

    jaytxxl Well-Known Member Full Member

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    #1 or #2 and it’s not even a debate for anyone other than those two. Resume wise there is Canelo/Usyk, a major gap and then everybody else.