Where does Wilder fit as a H2H HW?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by George Crowcroft, May 27, 2019.


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  1. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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  2. Aston Villa

    Aston Villa Active Member banned Full Member

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    Douglas was way more complete than Wilder imo
     
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  3. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    I feel Fury would have landed more shots on Douglas than he landed on Wilder because Wilder can often be dangerous on the counter because of his reach, Douglas was floored by a Rooney less Mike over committing with his jab, Wilder would have finished Mike that night far quicker than Buster did.
     
  4. Aston Villa

    Aston Villa Active Member banned Full Member

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    Wilders output isn't enough to beat THAT Tyson down like Douglas did, he hasn't Douglas selection of shots either although he has got better..
     
  5. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    His straight right is far better than Buster`s right cross was v Mike, the punch he knocked Stiverne out with split through the guard it was the perfect right hand and the right hand that caught Breazale would have sparked Tyson who`s defense was awful v Buster.
     
  6. Zakman

    Zakman ESB's Chinchecker Full Member

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    Dear god, lower than 20, OF COURSE. Beating the litany of stiffs, mediocrities and overrated, aging beltholders certainly does NOT qualify this FRAUD for discussion in any top 20 list of any kind -- except perhaps top padded records of all time, highest number of tomato cans fought, biggest overrated frauds in history, etc. etc.

    I can't believe the absurd hype this con artist gets. Can't wait until he fights a real live body and is destroyed.
     
  7. Staminakills

    Staminakills Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Very very few could beat him, literally a handful of guys could get closer enough to land what would be needed and without getting crushed coming in.

    I know of 5 that could beat him on any given night as he could to them. Not more than 5,6 counting Fury as a possible upset which couldn't ever happen now that DW figured Fury out.

    But he has the ability as does about 5 others from the entire history of the sport
     
  8. Aston Villa

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    Tyson ate flush shots from monster punchers through out his career, better punchers than Wilder, and never got dropped unless it was a sustained beating
     
  9. Aston Villa

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    He got up and won the rest of the round v Wilder, Wilder had his chance to follow up, where was it ?? He actually was hurt by Fury too and wanted to hold
     
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    And Wlad Klitschko dominated for 13 years and he is an overrated EE fighter.
     
  11. mark ant

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    Nobody in history has thrown a harder shot than the punch Wildder hit Breazale with in a boxing ring and Wilder would throw far more shots than Ruddock did v Tyson.
     
  12. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    Wilder himself has thrown harder shots
    The uppercut against Ortiz
    The right hand against Spizlla
    The right hand against Liakahovich

    And other none wilder punches which were harder
    Klitschkos left hook on Pulev
    Frazier's left hook on both Ali and Foster
    Foreman's right hand against Moorer
    Shaver's uppercut on Norton
    Lewis's Right hand on Rahman

    I could go on as well. And that's just HWs
     
  13. mark ant

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    No way was Foreman`s right hand on Moorer`s glas jaw near Wilder`s power.
     
  14. Gomo

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    I'm not even sure he beats the current top 10 or so.

    Joshua
    Fury
    Whyte
    Ortiz (a second time)
    Parker
    Ruiz
    Takam
    Usyk
    Chisora
    Whyte
    Pulev
    Povetkin
    Joyce

    So I don't know how anyone has him down as an ATG.

    I mean sure he could beat them all but I also reckon they all can outbox him if he doesn't land so...

    He needs to beat half a dozen of the above to considered an ATG. He lost to a fat fury and beat an Ortiz that 1. nearly beat him, 2. Is old as **** and 3. Hasn't fought anyone decent himself to know how good he actually is.
     
  15. madballster

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    How many top 5 fighters of today's era has Deontay beaten? Count carefully, then let us know.
     
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