Where does Wladimir Klitschko rank among ATG HWs?

:smoke head to head absolutlu one of the very best and the same goes for statistics . As for his title run he is definitly the most dominant . :deal

 

Wlad has 3 defences of the title. The belts he held before were not 'the' world title. If that was the case, Ottke would be regarded as one of the longest reigning world champions ever which does a disservice to those who fought great fighters.

3 paper titles. Next.

Since becoming world champion, Wlad has knocked out Chambers and Peter and didn't stop Haye. 2 knockouts in 3 fights.

Holmes beat poor opposition. Unlike Wlad, he beat them all.

 

I said "beat great fighters", you mentioned Tyson because you don't think he did beat any greats. Holmes and Spinks are, which is why I didn't read this nonsense.

 

jack is either joking or is a complete JOKE . Why bother arguing with him ?

 

I think I have him number 12 from the top of my head.

Any fighter who at any point is time is deemed by me to have been the best in their division is labelled by me as "a great"

Regarding wlad, for the last 6 years running he's been the best hw on the planet; hardly anyone can compete with that.

Who can? Holmes from 78-85 I can think of but who else?

Louise was, imo, the best from the max rematch until he left for the army.

Johnson from 1905-1911

Dempsey from 1918-1923.

Sullivan from 82-88.

Jackson from 88-92.

Anyone else of note who racked up a real reign of 5 years or more consecutively?

If nothing else wlad has been a dominant force and that's the basis of my ranking him high.

 

Silencer, I can't reply to you. I don't have an issue with you personally and I don't like to say this but please don't reply to me again. It's just pointless. You always do the same things. You don't address points, you deflect the issues, you post huge pictures and you rant about nothing. I can't debate with you at all.

If someone wants to form a logical argument, go ahead.

 

No, I don't rate Byrd higher.

Like I said, name me one fighter who never beat a great opponent and has lost to poor opposition, and yet is considered a great fighter.

Tyson beating Holmes and Spinks counts because they were, despite not being at their absolute peak, great fighters.

Just one name.

 

Top 110

 

Are you going to be that disingenuous? Really? Even though we disagree, I thought you seemed like a decent poster too. Shame.

I think it's clear what happened. One person posted a logical, well balanced argument whereas the other ranted and posted pictures.

 

nothing better than seeing jack get owned then begging to be left alone because hes got **** all to say...duff man ohh yeaaaaaaaaaaaaah

 

This is what real ATG's look like.

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Somewhere around Buster Mathis Jr. and Butterbean.:deal