Where does Wladimir Klitschko rank among ATG HWs?

No, it hasn't. All I've heard so far is lame assed excuses.

 

in the words of alan ..are you a ratard...??your a troll and have exposed yourself as one..attention seeking git..go and ask your mummy for a hug

 

If Wlad retired right now I'd have him somewhere around 11-15. If he can manage to rack up another 5-6 good wins and retire unbeaten from today on I think it will be hard to deny him a spot in the top 10.

If Wlad flames out and gets knocked out by a random bum he's back in the top 30-40 cohort for me.

 

Klitschko nut lickers who live in glass houses should not throw stones...

 

Was supposed to reply to Jack, my mistake.

 

Bump.


Sorry, just can't let it go.

 

So lets see, Monzon stepped out of Argentina and hasnt lost a fight but had 9 draws, you call that dominance. He hasnt beaten 9 fighters! he faced. But I am not saying that its not dominance. Im just trying to use your logic.

Now Wlad on the other hand, hired Manny, changed his style and hasnt lost since. He beat every fighter that was available in HW division throughout 8 years. I say thats dominance. If you cant call this dominance then you're just dumb.

I even recall that you called him dominant champion yourself. So how is this any different than Monzon?

 

I have him 15-20, and I am not even a Wlad fan...

 

Which he his. Why do you guys still bother arguing with the saddest Klit hater on ESB?

 

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Jack is a Wlad fan. He even called Wlad fans the most ******ed people on earth. that's respectfull self irony right there:yep

 

You think there are 5 or 6 wins which can elevate Wlad over the likes of Liston, Marciano or Dempsey, who are usually at the top end of top 10 lists? Who are those 5 or 6 fighters who are so good, that they would give Wlad's legacy such a boost? Helenius, an absolute stiff? Povetkin, a once talented fighter who has now greatly regressed? Who else?

 

Monzon won the world title in 1970 and didn't have a single blemish on his career after that. The 9 draws took place early in his career but they were likely all Monzon wins. The level of corruption in Argentina was, and to an extent still is, high, and because of that, they give lots of draws.

You can't avoid corruption. There are several fights on his record which resulted in draws but we know were outright robberies. That's just the way it is over there.

Wlad is dominant, yes, but not as dominant because when he was close to his prime, he lost. You can make an argument about Steward changing him for the better or whatever, but the fact is, after 40 odd fights, Wlad was knocked out in two rounds by a guy who was never anything more than a solid fighter.

 

I take it you're not going to bother making an argument?

Like I said before, when I first read your posts, I thought you were decent. You have good grammar and you take effort with your posts but clearly I was wrong. You're just another terrible poster.

Keep attacking me. It may make you look better with the other obsessed fans but to anyone who knows about boxing or has an open mind, it's clear you look pathetic.

 

jack by your logic marciano cant be ranked in the top ten either..now **** off you idiot your repeating your self..your being run into the ground but wont take the fact your wrong so you then again repeat yourself..go and watch the thunderbirds or something