Where have all the Heavy Weights Gone?

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Not that many.

I'll go ahead & say that Kickers & Punters aren't hidden boxing talents....................

 

Ray Lewis would get knocked the **** out by Lennox Lewis and Ithink Barry Sanders would've fought like a poor man's version of Sugar Shane Mosley................

Randall Cunnigham would've fought like a combination of Ali & Spinks.................

Lawrence Taylor looks like he could go a few rounds ...............

 

No duh Lewis would of gotten knocked out by him, he wasn't a boxer. Keep in mind he wouldn't be as bulky if he was a boxer.

 

they could be poor gatekeeper
who knows?

 

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What's bull**** is your blind denial. Do you live in America?

Americas best and most talented athletes are in the NFL and NBA. The NFL and NBA are the epitome of Americas best athletic talent. Athletically gifted kids in America are discovered at a young age, scouted and groomed during the time of Pop Warner all the way through high school and college and then the pros. Boxing is usually a last resort. You have to search long and hard to even find a boxing gym or camp. However you can go to any city anywhere in America and find footaball and basketball camps. Why don't you open your telephone book and look for youth leagues - i'm confident you'll find the numerical options for football and basketball camps plentiful.

Parents don't put their kids in boxing camps when their kid can get a scholarship for college playing football or basketball for a major university. When was the last time you heard a kid getting a scholarship for boxing? Never. How many times does this have to be explained to you simpletons? As a matter of fact my neighbors kid is seventeen, 6'3" and well over two hundred - he recently got scouted by San Jose State and other schools are looking at him. There are scores of multi-talented kids in this country who have natural boxing proficiency that can scrap but choose to play other sports. I would bet my house there's an NFL player in the league right now who has undiscovered natural boxing skills that could punish anyone in the HW divison and probably be a damn good champion. American fighters you see today, particularly the heavyweights, aren't talented enough to make the NFL or NBA which is why you have washouts like Jameel McCline and Michael Grant trying to make a living in boxing.

I love boxing. But if I had a choice between making a minimun of $5 million a year in the NFL - plenty of women to **** - or boxing professionally, you better believe I'm going to secure my financial future in the NFL.

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How many bank tellers have starting salaries larger than the bank's president? Do city garbage collectors receive starting salaries twice as much as the mayor's? Can an hourly applicant at McDonald's expect to make more in their first year than a regional manager?

Of course not! Yet, this is what's happening in the NFL.

Rookie players, who have yet to play a single minute in a regular season game, are given multi-million dollar contracts. They end up with starting salaries that exceed those of players who have been playing 5, 10 and 15 years in the league.

Two key examples include Jake Long, drafted by the Miami Dolphins and Matt Ryan drafted by the Atlanta Falcons. Long signed a five-year,

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deal and Ryan signed a six-year,

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And how would you know, Numbskull? Looks like you're just saving face just to make excuses for the dismalness of the HW's divison. Oh wait, I almost forgot. A blown up SMW/Lt. Heavyweight is the biggest name on Wlads resume.

 

Flow, you just don't choose to join the NBA or NFL. You're either good enough for it or not, and 99% of athletes aren't, mainly because of size requirements. However, just about anyone can choose to box professionally. It's only logical that some of the thousands of NFL or NBA hopefuls that never make it would have turned to boxing already if those sports were truly what was cannibalizing boxing. In the last 50 years, there's only been one guy who's been good enough to be a pretty good fighter as well as football player. There's been zero basketball players who could do it. Both leagues have been around long enough that we should have seen more people who couldn't cut it at the NFL level (over 97% of d1 players, over 99% of every other level of college football) take up boxing with success.

If you subscribe to the "all our fighters are in the NFL/NBA" logic to answer where our champions are, where on earth are all the contenders? Shouldn't there be at least a few from the 99% of athletes who couldn't make it? There is only one guy who fits that profile in the last 30 years who's even remotely on the radar: JD Chapman, who played college football for awhile.

None of the 90's Heavyweights, who people revere as the deepest since the 70's, were ever going to be any professional athlete but boxers. And yet, that era came about after the 80's when alot of the same excuses were popping up to explain why the division wasn't what it was in the 70's.

The fact is that American HW boxing routinely goes through years and years of perceived weakness and slow times before really exploding for a few years, usually galvanized by a single great draw and the drama surrounding them. Dempsey, Louis, Ali, and Tyson almost singlehandedly created interest by dominating the divison, then fanned the flames by not fighting which allowed new rivals to step forward. The cycle's been going on for as long as there's been boxing. It's only a matter of time before things bounce back as they inevitably do.

 

Fighters are fighters, athletes are athletes, period. Some people mistake lifting a lot of weight, or being able to run for being able to fight. That is not true at all.

Larry Holmes was barely over 200 lbs and tubby at that. Holmes would not make a good pro athlete! And most pro athletes would not make good fighters.

I seen Ron Artest attempt to fight a short fat fan, it was ****ing pathetic. Artest cannot fight. Shaq throws punches so wide and slow, you can see them coming with your back turned. Shaq missed Brad Miller with a punch by 5 feet. Shaq is a ****ing idiot. Those two are supposedly real tough, indimidating guys for the NBA, and they have no fighting ability at all (besides size obviously).

 

Don't worry.....you all can breathe easy, because your savior will arrive come November when David "The Heavyweight Hayematrix" makes his return to the heavyweight arena...

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Exactly. "SeeMeBlow" is just using excuses to explain why American HW's aren't dominate like they once were.

 

Ruskull, your deterioration as a rational poster has been quite sad to witness.