Where is Harry Greb in your All time Greats Top list?

Are you suggesting Greb is above Robinson? Now that is just plain silly!!!

 

Greb wasn't exactly in his pomp when he died, but so what if he was? How does that take away from what he accomplished?

Even if he went into vertical drop, would that have changed things? It's not as though some losses were going to "expose" him. He had already done everything and more that needed to be done.

By the way, Greb is # 3 for me all time, and he is arguably the best. He's definitely in the discussion. We'd have a clearer idea from some fight footage just what he was about, but seeing some of the men he beat on film, he MUST have been something special.

 

I think that a strong case can be made. Greb has a much deeper resume.

 

There was a thread going around the other day with people trying to give opinions of how they think a head to head match up featuring greb would turn out. I disagree with being able to analyze a fight between people, when you can't view one of the fighters to analyze his style.

You can read Greb's record, and view some his opponents on film. It is fair to put him in your top 10 pound for pound. You choose where, you won't get an argument from me on this one.

 

No ones winning resume compares to Robinson's...

That has to be a given

 

It does not, but his early death does give people 'SSS', and you cannot judge him on a full career like everyone else who I rated above him.

 

In terms of sheer number of world class fighters beaten Greb has no peer apart from perhaps Sam Langford.

 

Depends what you term world class, if standards slip, you can spin better numbers than Robinson, but for sheer quality name wins Robinson is in a league of his own.

 

I have to disagree there.

In all Greb defeated 14 fighters that held a lineal title at some stage of their careers, from welterweight to heavyweight. He defeated an incredible seven light heavyweight champions.

Whatever you think of the era Greb fought in, Robinson is up against it here.

 

The list is a long one and there will inevitably be debate on some points. However I am prepared to commit to the following-

Langford was avoided by Philadelphia Jack O'Brien as Light Heavyweight champion, Jack Johnson as Heavyweight champion, Jess Willard as Heavyweight Champion. A lot of the top white hopes steered clear of Langford for fear of damaging their colour line credentials.

Greb was avoided by Georges Carpinter as Light Heavyweight Champion and Jack Dempsey as Heavyweight Champion (at least by his managment). He also called out Harry Wills at least once.

 

The guy sure had a busy schedule.